People ragging on the only viable browser solution we have… Firefox is rock solid, fast, tweakable, and keeps me as safe as any browser and my configs/habits can. I don’t care if management eats babies.
I use it on debian with celenity phoenix and a few about:config tweaks, also tweak’d the theme a bit. Extensions: ublock origin, sponsorblock, localcdn, consent-o-matic, containers, keepassxc-browser, and sometimes jshelter.
web browsing: solved
Been using it since it was Netscape Navigator. It’s the only solution for me, that has stuck. It’s not like I haven’t tried anything else like Opera, Waterfox, Vivaldi and a few others. I have never installed Chrome though… Firefox is the only one I feel safe with… A few addons, and a few tweaks, and like you, I’m good to go…
I can see that people really have a hard time when someone speaks figuratively…
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I am so confused right now.
I don’t care if management eats babies.
You definitely should care, what a weird thing to say.
I like Firefox and use LibreWolf all the time, but Mozilla should still absolutely get lampooned for their bullshittery.
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Others have been too nice in their responses so I’m just going to drive the point home: go fuck yourself for equating being bi to eating babies.
You could have said he’s a Zionist sinstead. Also his music sucks.
hey i can’t believe this needs to be explained to you but:
- being bi is okay
- wearing yellow underwear is okay
- listening to techno is okay
- eating babies is not okay
Sexuality is not a choice, but being a bigot absolutely is.
So… eating babies is different than every other example you listed. The reason most people think you shouldn’t care about a creator being Bi, or driving automatic is those aren’t moral failings.
Also even the eating babies example sucks as the perceived moral failings also influence the product until the pushback has them renege.
It’s more akin to them having weird stalker behavior and then occasionally dropping a track where they talk about how fun it is creeping on folks.
It both is weird and I’d rather not support someone that does it if at all possible, and it also influences the product they are putting out.
being bi is equivalent to eating babies
might want to rethink your example there
do you really laugh that much while typing?
I do the bare minimum and I mooch off my friends, but hey, at least I’m a good person who doesn’t assault innocent passerby! I don’t deserve any criticism of yours, even if it’s constructive and to my betterment!
Using Firefox since v1.0.2 and no plan to switch to any other browser.
All concerns that people have about Mozilla/Firefox, can be solved by tweaking preferences in about:config; nothing is hard-locked by Firefox developers.
Its the company that sucks. It just sucks less than the others.
I use librewolf since it doesn’t have all of firefoxes shit in it especially “AI”. Them shoving pocket everywhere is what got me off of main firefox to begin with.
Used it ever since iCab went away. Tried all the rest, they don’t measure up.
Have you tried libre wolf? I’d heard the creator had lately come out with some outspoken political views but I didn’t actually hear what they were or what they said
Firefox is the best by far.
It’s the least worse we have but it’s far from good. Security issues, AI, telemetry and so on.
You gave proof as well as you thought your have to modify about:config and use several add ons.
This should not be necessary except for Ublock and tool related add ons.Calling something good and ignoring problems do not make something good.
Web browsing: Still torture
While I do know the general concerns about AI and telemetry use in Firefox, but can you shed some light on Security issue? Thanks.
Historically, Firefox has had fewer security measures than Chrome. For example, full tab isolation was only implemented recently in Firefox, many years after Chrome. MV3-only extentions in Chrome also reduce the attack surface from that perspective.
The counterpoint to this is that there are much fewer users of Firefox, so it less attractive to try to exploit. Finding a vulnerability in Chrome is much more lucrative, since it has the potential to reach more targets.
If I’m not mistaken then Chrome enabled Site isolation in 2019 and Firefox in 2021[1].
MV3 itself is controversial[2] as it unfairly targets extensions that block ad - a major source of revenue for Alphabet.
Alphabet has all the money in the world to make a browser as secure and as privacy friendly as possible. Their focus is only on “secure browser” part.
Mozilla lacks of funding (in compare to Alphabet), but still mostly outdo Alphabet on the “privacy” aspect of browser. And, they play catching up game on security aspect of browser.
And AFAIK, tab isolation still isn’t a thing in Firefox for Android. It’s frustrating.
I have not left it yet but it has done some things that made me think significantly about replacing it. I think they do need their feet to the fire to stay somewhat good. That being said most every time there is drama around it I find the thing is really not it was blown up to be.
My issue is that the theme tweaking is limited even after changing the settings in about:config. I have been trying to set up a retro theme for Firefox, something like Netscape, but the proton style seems to be fairly hard coded into the Firefox appearance. I wish they would make Firefox more visually customize able. The best looking browser I have found that matches my setup is pale moon, but it is slow and doesn’t load websites properly.
Although I will agree that Firefox is the best browser outside of looks.
you can customize every aspect of its appearance using userChrome.css; it’s not hardcoded at all.
The theme I am using is coded using chrome.css, but the proton tab style and border style won’t change.
is it a theme you wrote or one you downloaded? if it’s the latter then it probably just wasn’t updated to reflect those changes. the tab styling isn’t hard-coded either, but it has undergone changes in recent updates and as a result broke some themes.
I downloaded the files so it could just be old. The themes were made in 2021 it seems. I do want to say thank you for trying to help with this. I’m gonna use the link you sent to see if I can figure it out.
I couldn’t tell whether this post was supposed to be sarcasm or what. Firefox is great, except you have to install all those extensions and add-ons and make manual configuration changes through a nerd-only UI in order to get a basic measure of privacy? Um no, Firefox is deeply unsatisfying for those exact reasons you list, though people use it anyway under the circumstances.
I ditched Firefox due to a vicious memory leak which was so hard to track down (didn’t register in task manager) that I reinstalled windows before finding the culprit. As soon as I identified Firefox as the cause and then, when I knew what to search for, discovered it was a known bug existing for years I ditched the browser with prejudice.
Mind linking the bug?
Here is a link to one of the bug reports: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1897006
Said report was closed down and presumed “fixed” but I still encounter this issue on the latest stable.
When you know what to search for you’ll find numerous users reporting similar behaviour on Reddit and other social platforms going back multiple years.
If I were more invested I would keep submitting bug reports and memory dumps in the hopes that it may once and for all get stomped. But I’ve made the leap back to chromium and can’t justify the time. I realise that this is a major issue but one that only affects a small percentage of users, likely affecting specific hardware / setups. If the developers aren’t able to reproduce it then it’ll probably remain unfixed.
Arch btw
