This poetgirl on Instagram says some off the wall shit.

Some of these old bitches have totally lost their mind and just spread misinformation.

This is more than mildly infuriating for me but I wasn’t quite sure where else to post this lol.

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    “Christians” also stole this land and genocided people who had lived here since long before they came. Those who don’t like this should return to where their forefathers came from, no?

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    Wrong… A simple google search shows that Muslims did indeed fight in the US revolutionary war along side other colonists

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      Cool, and dickish on rightwingers part. But t also I didn’t realize they were even a minority population then past like- random individuals and families

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        They’re part of the Old Testament, which pulls from Jewish scripture, but it’s all Abrahamic to me. They should post the Beatitudes if they really want to keep things Christian-specific, but they won’t. Why? Just read them (and the corresponding Woes in Luke) and you’ll see. The Wikipedia article should be enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes

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          Mmm problem with the beatitudes is they’re kinda pretty open to interpretation. What do you consider merciful or righteous? Sure its narrowed down pretty well if you follow all of his teachings… but that’s asking a lot of modern American Christians.

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    Christians fought for the land? You are talking about the genocide of native Americans? The same ones that owned slaves?.. Yeah ok, I understand why YOU like them so much now…

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      About 20-30% of the people enslaved and deported to the US were Muslims.

      The “Christians” brought Islam to North America by force.

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    “Nyeah nyeah, my god is better than yours” - some cunt failing to realize they worship the same god

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        If the ones that aren’t like that gave a fuck they would do literally anything to stop the ones that are. But because that would hurt their precious religion they just ignore it instead.

        As far as I’m concerned they are all dog shit people. Willingly turning a blind eye to hate from your own is no better than spewing it yourself.

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          Yeah, we often see the entire non-terrorist Muslim population being held responsible for not doing enough to condemn terrorism, but Christians are let off the hook for the atrocities of their fundamentalists.

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          I assure you the ones that arent like that do give a fuck and do what they can with what ability they can when able. A lot of them go non denominational and some are fighting other battles elsewhere.

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          If you want to change their minds, you have to do it with promises & lies.

          In the meantime, the pope will continue to shit in the woods.

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        The ones that aren’t didn’t do much to stop the ones that are from taking over. You’d think they’d care more about the blasphemous hatred they spew. It makes all Christians look bad.

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            There’s not much of anything you can do an an individual other than publicly denounce them. This is something church leaders should have nipped in the bud a long time ago.

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          What does stopping American Christofascists from reconstructing the US government into a baldly authoritarian cesspit look like for normal, moderate Christians? And how does it differ from what theists of other religions and atheists could do to stop the same thing (reconstruction of the US government)?

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            It’s decades too late at this point, but not accepting the far-right fundamentalists who were spewing clearly non-Christ-like rhetoric as fellow Christians would have been a good start. This applies more to church leadership than lay people, although a general sense of not accepting them from everyone would have still helped. They were happy to consider them when counting how many people in the US were Christian. Unlike non-theists and theist non-Christians alike, all Christians gain a lot by being the de facto state religion despite it supposedly being illegal.

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          Every 2000 years or so, religion goes to war with itself. Big war.

          In the years between, it’s basically disputes over what to call the omnipotent being or which shoe to worship.

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        Not all that segregate are doomed to hate. Just most.

        Thanks for not telling us “we are going to hell”, we’re already here.

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    indigenous people did, are you ok to show their spirituality in schools? I am sure there will be mass conversions lol

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      Even if it wasn’t for all the other instances already mentioned, there were quite a few muslim combat interpreters that fought with the US troops in Afghanistan etc. only to be left behind and they sure as fuck got killed.

      …them and their families.

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    “If God truly does exist, he more so loves the atheist who questions the world around him than the Christian who blindly follows.”

    Thomas Jefferson

    50% of the Founding Fathers were agnostic or atheist. My question is: why does she hate America?

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    https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html

    The Founders of this nation explicitly included Islam in their vision of the future of the republic. Freedom of religion, as they conceived it, encompassed it. Adherents of the faith were, with some exceptions, regarded as men and women who would make law-abiding, productive citizens. Far from fearing Islam, the Founders would have incorporated it into the fabric of American life.

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    People don’t read. Paraphrasing:

    • Jesus (J): “Why would you call me ‘good’? Only the Father is good.”

    • Muhammed (M): “Our Lord has decreed mercy upon Himself, so to anyone who commits sin out of ignorance and then repents and amends, He is Forgiving, Merciful.”

    • J: “It’s easier* for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than it is for a rich man to enter Heaven.”

    • M: “Those who hoard gold and silver and don’t spend it in the cause of God, give them news of a painful retribution.”

    • J: “You have been told ‘do not murder, for whoever murders will be judged for it’, but I tell you anyone who is angry and insults their brother will be judged for it too.”

    • M: “The righteous are those who suppress their anger and pardon the people. God loves the good doers.”

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      I know you’re paraphrasing and probably from memory, but you have one inparticular completely backwards- It is EASIER for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven. Meaning, of course, a camel cannot pass through the eye of a needle, and therefore a rich man will never get into heaven, because in order to get rich he must have been selfish and greedy, which is ungodly. (I’m a heathen, so idfk what I’m talking about, but I learned this proverb from my religious ex-partner, and I think it’s lovely)

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        100%! Thanks for the very important correction, my cat woke me up at 3 am and I started posting half asleep, lol (and you know exactly what the J-man was talking about! 😁).

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        Interesting fact: in… 2010-ish a Vatican historian priest released a book where he explained that Jesus was a jokester. A lot of his sermons in the Bible were haha funny for the people at the time.

        Do you know what we call a dude traveling from city to city with an entourage making people laugh? :)

        A comedian.

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          Humour is a sign of intelligence! And yes, the ‘camel’ is a play on words, as gamla in Aramaic means both rope and camel, and also a callback to Jewish oral tradition/Talmudic teachings where it’s an ‘elephant going through the eye of the needle’. 👍

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    My mom once asked if my Jewish girlfriend celebrated Thanksgiving. When I scoffed, she reminded me that there weren’t any Jews on the Mayflower.

    I reminded her that there weren’t any Catholics either.

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      Nice. You gave her the burrrnn. Good job. We need to really start correcting much of this type of misinformation out there when people say it one day many many more will believe it.

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        It’s a fight against windmills. There’s a certain type of person who’s just totally resistant against learning new stuff. They got their opinion and that’s truth and screw everything else.

        You might correct one thing, but by the time you did that they already dug up three new pieces of garbage.

        It’s so frustrating.

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      In fairness, Thanksgiving wasn’t made a national holiday until 1863. By then, the US had plenty of Catholics, in no small part thanks to the Irish Potato Famine of the prior two decades.

      It also had plenty of Jews, thanks to the Napoleonic Wars and the then-recent string of wars along the border of the Ottoman Empire.

      Hell, it might be worth pointing out that the Mayflower was the product of the 30 Years War (of which the Hell on Earth podcast miniseries does a really excellent job of documenting), which also produced a sizable exodus of Catholics and Jews to the New World. So, it seems they’ve got as much of an excuse to celebrate 17th century Settlers Colonialism as anybody.

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    God, fucking Christians. We need a slur for them or something so badly. I’m so sick of them.

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      4chan had a term; Christfag.

      If you take out the offence to the gay community, it’s actually a brutal phrase. It conjures up connotations of being literally gay for Jesus (which is really offensive to them).

      Note: I’m not condoning the phrase, it’s obviously not something people should be saying.

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        I’m aware of the term Christfag. I was there, Gandalf. 4chan also had an incredibly abrasive board culture as a means of social filtering, so {append}fag was their way of referring to someone who had identified as some way, or else for someone to refer to themselves as that thing, usually because they were trying to tell everyone they had unique perspective on what was being discussed. It got to the point where I saw a person open their post identifying as a “Gayfag.”

        I don’t like using the term for this because its punching down at an actually oppressed minority who would be caught in the crossfire.

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          The crucifix is an implement of torture and execution, upon which the titular Christian god was executed to fulfill a blood oath. Executionists, torturers, blood magicians, nailers, death cultists, the forsaken (Psalm 22)…

          Being shephered by a higher authority is also a common theme. Sheep is right there, although some actually use that directly.

          Another common theme is the second arrival of their god, starting the end of the mortal realm and the death of all mortals. Death cultists again, apocalyptics, doomsdayers…

          There’s lots of heinous things in their book, but most reject them or are unaware. You could call out lots of things there.

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      Comedian James Acaster offers “crizzos” in one special. That’s got some zip to it.

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      I refer to them as Fundies (i.e., Fundamentalists). That seems to cover all the obnoxious christians.