[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing] I’m the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing] Read theory you losers, you’re all WRONG

[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing] Nuh-uh, I’m the only leftist here, you’re SHITLIBS

[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

[a confused nazi asks] Why… why are they still arguing?

https://thebad.website/comic/infighting

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    I’m anti authoritarian and anti right. Tankies are leftists that I have no interest in getting along with. They are just as excited to be holding the gun in this comic

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      Yes, leninists are nominally on the left. Nominally. However throughout history most similar ideologies have consistently exterminated executed and oppressed everyone that ever disagreed with them. Allies or not. Left or right. Which makes them authoritarian and untrustworthy first. Left at their convenience.

      As an anarchist, I have no major beef with actual communist. While I will disagree a lot with demsoc or socdems. I have no issue allying with them where we agree. Because even though we disagree, on the things we agree on. I know they are just as committed, and won’t turn on us the moment it’s convenient.

      But I’m all too familiar with the type that behave like the comic. I think we all are. Anyone using the term shitlib or blue maga for instance.

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        As an anarchist

        You aren’t an anarchist though, you’ve never actually expressed anarchists beliefs: you’re a hard core DNC supporter and liberal. There’s a reason your main complaint is people using terms like “shitlib” and “bluemaga”, because those are what you are.

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          I do it all the time. Done it several places in this thread even. Though lying and dishonesty from a joke like you. Who’s shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities. That’s completely on brand.

          For every weak and tepid bit of support I’ve ever given the DNC during the presidential election. I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out. Because I do it all the time. However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren’t interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.

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            I do it all the time.

            I literally never see it, but I do often see you saying things that are explicitly incompatible with anarchism.

            Who’s shitty hot takes are regularly posted on and laughed at in many communities

            “We make fun of you in our secret tree house that you aren’t allowed in” is not the sick burn you think.

            I could give you 10 to 13 calling them out.

            And for every one tepid, qualified criticism of the democrats you offer, I could you give 20 of you viciously tearing into the left for not supporting the democrats enough.

            However terminally online little trolls like yourself aren’t interested in facts or reality. And your disapproval is a badge of honor.

            Oh my god, go back to Reddit you insufferable dweeb. You’re really doing the “facts and logic” bullshit?

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      They would also tell me to my (virtual) face that they think my country has no right to exist, so that too makes it pretty hard to have any sort of productive collaboration.

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        Yes, Unity cannot be enforced. Unity can only coexist with consent. And those that would violate consent to enforce Unity actually despise both.

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      This “anti-authoritarian” recently called for mass execution of their enemies.

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          Are you now going to argue that that isn’t an authoritarian act because it was justified? Because, guess what, every “authoritarian” believes their actions are justified

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            Protecting Jewish and other minorities rights to live and safety is not an authoritarian act. It is in fact protecting the most vulnerable’s liberty. Anti authorization is not lawless. You are a very weird little person and I have no interest in trying to convince you Nazis are bad. I hope you can figure that one out on your own

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              I believe what @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml is getting at is that all states are authoritarian, and that there are positive and negative uses of authority. Executing SS officers is a positive use of authority. Since all states are an extension of the ruling class, it is better for that ruling class to be the proletariat, rather than the bourgeoisie, and for the proletariat to use its authority to oppress the bourgeoisie and gradually sublimate capital until all production is collectivized, class ceases to exist, and by extension the state withers away, leaving only administration, management, etc.

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                No I’m pretty sure they pulled something from another post to try to misrepresent it because they’re a bitter terminally online loser. That is a very generous interpretation though

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                  I’m saying it because I’ve seen them make the same argument, as I have done myself, in different ways.

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                    Their argument is that I’m not anti authoritarian. Afaict you’re not making that argument. I’m not interested in fighting about what is or isn’t a true Scotsman. This devolves quickly into if you believe in the government having any power, that’s an endorsement of authoritarianism and now no one can be anti authoritarian if they believe in any kind of enforceable law.