Well, I went to an Aldi for a grocery shop for the first time today. Self-checkout was great! Not as nice as scan & go, which I’ll miss, but worth it. Cheers for the tip.

Not a fan of the bagging area though fwiw. It’s just an “area”, without hooks. I didn’t notice the camera thing. I think I’ve only ever really seen that at Coles.

Oooohhh. I thought you had somehow completely flubbed typing the word “big”, or something like that.

Rare Reddit w

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Man I hate it when I’m around someone with a istg dick complex.

I just took a really quick look at it, but under Importing data from Nominatim it says “-country-codes allows to filter the data to be imported by country. Set this to a comma-separated list of two-letter language codes.”

That’s a different section from the Importing data from a JSON dump section, which is where it only mentions -country-code. But even that does seem to suggest it takes “all the parameters of an import from a Nominatim database”. So it seems like either the documentation for one of them is wrong, or both are lacking (because in fact both the singular and plural work).

If you do not configure anything, then Reitti will skip Geocoding and only display Unknown Place.

Ah ok thanks. This is what I was wondering.

Two follow-ups:

Can you specify multiple COUNTRY_CODEs? (and if so, is the method

environment:
  - COUNTRY_CODE=country_one
  - COUNTRY_CODE=country_two

or

environment:
  - COUNTRY_CODE=[country_one, country_two]

or something else?)

And is this something that can seemlessly be retroactively changed? For example, if I set COUNTRY_CODE=au and it works fine for Australia, but then I move to NZ, can I add (assuming the answer to my first question is yes) or change to COUNTRY_CODE=nz and have all the NZ locations work on the already-recorded data, even if I made that change to my configuration after I had been in NZ for a few months?

Is that true even if you’re not in hybrid mode?

I don’t actually have any personally. I’m still with Google Photos for now and hadn’t decided what to switch to, with Immich, Nextcloud, and the non-open Synology Photos being the top of my list. Legitimately, what a tool like this supports could be a factor I use to help decide.

How complicated is the code interfacing with Immich? Is it a piece someone not familiar with your overall code base could relatively easily pick up and make a pull request for?

I love that it supports multiple formats for important location as well as multiple geocoders. But that makes me wonder, would it be feasible to support multiple image libraries? There’s a bunch of different FOSS photo libraries out there. I think Nextcloud is the main other one I’ve heard about ‘in the wild’, as it were. Or is there too much bespoke Immich code in there for that to be a simple plug-and-play option?

Oh interesting. I’ve just read through that link, and I was assuming that something similar to the “external only” option would have been the only way it worked. More specifically, I thought it’d just store a list of historical points and display those on an OSM overlay. But it seems like even “external only” is much more involved than that.

What happens with self-hosted Photon if you specify a country, but then also visit another country? (I assume in hybrid mode it’s as simple as "use Photon in your country, use Nominatim otherwise?)

But yeah, definitely sounds like a Pi is probably not gonna cut it. I’ll have to see if my Synology can do it, or if the weird OS restrictions Synology imposes prevent it.

Fuck yeah this is awesome! The detail of Immich integration is just the icing on top of an awesome cake!

How demanding is it on server resources? Am I likely to be able to run it on an old Raspberry Pi that’s also running a couple of other relatively light tasks? How much storage does it end up using over time? I’m probably going to try and get it running either on my Pi or my Synology NAS, though the latter has had issues with Docker containers in the past depending on the container’s dependencies…

Yeah I agree. Using the upstream source also helps keep the canonical URL so cross-posts and reposts can automatically be detected to show users where conversations about the topic may have already happened.

Yeah I’ve never seen it myself. I’m not sure how widely it’s been rolled out yet.

Interesting. Thanks for the tip.

They’ve done an awful job of marketing it.

I think discovery is a pretty big inherent problem with the system. Unless you already know about it, to discover it requires that you use the app, and spot the “scan & go” option on the very busy home page

Compare that with handheld scanners that were becoming popular in the Netherlands 5 years ago, which create a visible wall you walk past every time you enter the store. Discovery is obviously much better in that method.

Which I think is why they’re switching to these tablets in trolleys. People are going to trolleys anyway. I think it’s a shame they’re going with big cumbersome tablets rather than a simple handheld scanner that could be used with a basket or when just holding a few items, but oh well.

But you’re completely right that they did a fucking terrible job marketing it. There were signs up all through the store, but if I didn’t already know what it was I doubt I’d pay them any attention. A TV advertising campaign focused on “the shop of the future” it some such tagline could have gone a long way.

Oh that’s a shame. Where was this, and when did they stop?

I quite like the idea of that option. Phone would be best, but I think the poor uptake scan & go had was probably because of the discovery problem. Most people don’t use the Woolies app, and those who do use it probably don’t notice the little “scan & go” option. But a wall of scanners right at the entrance is harder to miss. I’d have thought it should have much bigger uptake.

I think you may have misunderstood what Ilandar was saying, but I’m not exactly sure how, because I don’t know which type of scan & go you’re talking about.

Part of this stems from the fact that there are two types of scan & go. The older, superior (IMO, and theirs) option of scanning with your phone, tapping a few buttons to pay on your phone, and walk out. Then there’s what they’re replacing that with, which is dedicated tablets that sit in the trolley.

Ilandar was talking about how, if you’re using a trolley anyway, there’s basically no difference (except that, going forward, you’ll have to pay at the gate, not on your phone—this is true even where Scan&Go mobile is sticking around). But if you’re only grabbing a couple of items, you now have to get a big cumbersome trolley anyway, or choose to go the old-school method of self checkout.

I probably do a majority of my shops either by hand or with a basket. 1–15 items or so, depending on their size. But by hand or a basket can’t do scan & go, anymore.

Oh goodie. On top of two years ago where they stopped letting you use 10% on an online delivery or direct to boot order. I was pissed at that, because they announced that change like a month after I had just renewed my Woolies Mobile annual subscription, a decision I made in part because of that precise perk.

I reckon at first it was probably making me do that about 1 in every 3 shops, which wasn’t great. They definitely could have done a better job of making the onboarding experience nicer.

At a certain point I was getting frustrated with it and decided to start counting. After I started counting, I got checked 3 times out of 27 regular shops, and 0 times out of 11 “small” shops (which I defined as, very roughly, 5ish items or fewer, on account of the random checks asking staff to scan 5 items from your bag). Not sure how many times I had used it before I started keeping a tally, but I think around 20, and I think I was checked around 5 or 6 times.

If it had been up to me, I’d have made the first 3 or 4 shops almost guaranteed to not be checked for any new user, and then give them maybe a 1/5 chance for the next 30 or so shops, before easing off into what was apparently somewhere along the lines of a 1/10 chance or less. So you get an early good experience, but then get taught “hey, it is possible to get caught here” in a way that’s a little gentler than what it actually was, but persistent enough to lock in that message.

The frequency with which I have problems with old-fashioned self-checkout certainly didn’t hurt in converting me to this. Never once had it tell me I did something wrong like self-checkout does constantly. To me it just felt like “oh yeah, a routine random check”. (And because it’s a machine, I know it’s actually random, unlike the “random” checks at airports.) The most irritating part was the fact that it was clearly used rarely enough that staff weren’t on the lookout for people standing there awkwardly waiting to be scanned.