We’re going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care. Your guy is the worst thing that has happened to the US in recent history, get over it
I was going to argue that the Trail of Tears was probably worse, but then I had to pause because he was almost definitely inspired by it (or at least his handlers were). So you got me there
Numbers surely don’t tell the whole story. What happened to the Cherokee was a dramatic loss for many reasons, and basically amounted to genocide or ethnic cleansing. That’s very much where the USA is (or is headed) right now, too. Loss of life due to covid was a tragedy, but it has nothing on the evil that was the Trail of Tears.
Nothing in those comments is emotionally indifferent to suffering—callous would be mocking the deaths in Gaza or treating them as irrelevant. That’s not what’s happening. What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country. That’s not callous—that’s commentary. And it lands because people still care, and many of us don’t plan to stop caring.
As for trite, no. Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning. But if people keep bringing it up, that’s probably because the damage keeps compounding and the folks who helped enable it (Read: people like you) still haven’t taken any accountability. The criticism isn’t tired—it’s still relevant. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why. Or don’t, but at least shut up with your whinging.
Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.” They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices. That’s not cruelty—that’s accountability; something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.
What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country.
First, I’m not aware of “Harris will be worse than Trump” being a popular position anywhere on Lemmy. Second, nothing about this circlejerk is bitter, but even if it was: “I told you so” is fine for the first few times—I don’t agree with that characterization, but that’s just politics—but when we’re more than five months into this shit and people’s suffering is still being used to smugly make the exact same point, we’ve already passed the point where anything about this is productive. The election is over and at this rate American democracy is going to be dead by the next election.
Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning.
Again, there is no meaning being conveyed here. Nobody who wasn’t convinced the first 100 times is going to be convinced the 101th—I am certainly not any more convinced now than when I opened this thread—so what you’re left with is a circlejerk more about making oneself feel good than causing any positive change.
If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why.
Because I don’t like to circlejerk with the suffering of people.
Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.”
We’re going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care.
-The guy I was responding to.
They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices.
What a coincidence, because I think this is the consequences of your actions, but again that’s not the point. We can argue whose fault Trump 2 was without the circlejerking.
something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.
Uh… you do realize that people who didn’t vote were overwhelmingly moderates, right? The pro-Palestine left did turn out for Harris, and it did them exactly zero good.
We’re going to rub this shit in your face until the US has universal health care. Your guy is the worst thing that has happened to the US in recent history, get over it
Possibly in all of history.
I was going to argue that the Trail of Tears was probably worse, but then I had to pause because he was almost definitely inspired by it (or at least his handlers were). So you got me there
First thing that occurred to me:
Deaths from trail of Tears: 6,000-8,000
Deaths from first Covid-19 pandemic in the United States between March and June 2020: 125,000
Numbers surely don’t tell the whole story. What happened to the Cherokee was a dramatic loss for many reasons, and basically amounted to genocide or ethnic cleansing. That’s very much where the USA is (or is headed) right now, too. Loss of life due to covid was a tragedy, but it has nothing on the evil that was the Trail of Tears.
He is certainly not “my” guy, but that doesn’t make “so glad we don’t have Harris amirite???” any less callous or less trite.
You’re misusing both “callous” and “trite” here.
Nothing in those comments is emotionally indifferent to suffering—callous would be mocking the deaths in Gaza or treating them as irrelevant. That’s not what’s happening. What’s happening is that people are pointing out the bitter irony of having been told Kamala would somehow be worse than Trump, only to end up with this gestures around broadly at the country. That’s not callous—that’s commentary. And it lands because people still care, and many of us don’t plan to stop caring.
As for trite, no. Trite implies the idea is overused and devoid of meaning. But if people keep bringing it up, that’s probably because the damage keeps compounding and the folks who helped enable it (Read: people like you) still haven’t taken any accountability. The criticism isn’t tired—it’s still relevant. If that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask why. Or don’t, but at least shut up with your whinging.
Nobody’s “rubbing it in your face.” They’re just not letting you memory-hole the consequences of your own choices. That’s not cruelty—that’s accountability; something else we are sorely lacking in our government right now, thanks to idiots who abstained from voting for ’moral’ reasons.
First, I’m not aware of “Harris will be worse than Trump” being a popular position anywhere on Lemmy. Second, nothing about this circlejerk is bitter, but even if it was: “I told you so” is fine for the first few times—I don’t agree with that characterization, but that’s just politics—but when we’re more than five months into this shit and people’s suffering is still being used to smugly make the exact same point, we’ve already passed the point where anything about this is productive. The election is over and at this rate American democracy is going to be dead by the next election.
Again, there is no meaning being conveyed here. Nobody who wasn’t convinced the first 100 times is going to be convinced the 101th—I am certainly not any more convinced now than when I opened this thread—so what you’re left with is a circlejerk more about making oneself feel good than causing any positive change.
Because I don’t like to circlejerk with the suffering of people.
-The guy I was responding to.
What a coincidence, because I think this is the consequences of your actions, but again that’s not the point. We can argue whose fault Trump 2 was without the circlejerking.
Uh… you do realize that people who didn’t vote were overwhelmingly moderates, right? The pro-Palestine left did turn out for Harris, and it did them exactly zero good.