A comprehensive analysis of over 10,000 electric vehicles reveals that battery degradation is a slow process, with most power packs capable of lasting 20 years and retaining a majority of their original range.
They didn’t make that clear in the comment then. Maintenance is always required for basically anything that gets used on a regular basis but saying a entire car is done after 20 years is insane.
I thought my 2008 car was old, because I rarely see older cars, don’t have statistics here, just vibe guessing that the average age of a car was much less than 20 years
Yea, cars aren’t cheap, and it’s way cheaper to keep them running than to buy new. Tons of people drive 20+ year old cars, and as that other poster shows 14+ is the average now. It’s going up because cars are just insanely expensive now. At least here in the USA.
Price of cars has increased massively. 2000 average price of new car was like 20k now it’s around 50k. Dunno about you but most people’s salaries have not increased 150%.
Just changed the radio for a 160$ android system and a huge screen, and rear view camera (another 60ish), gives me 90% of all the bells and whistles I want from modern cars.
I think it depends on where you are. Some regions cause cars to rust through and destroy themselves from salt and humidity. Others are dry as a bone, so cars last longer.
sort of makes sense ish, insurance is mostly based on what damages you can make, so it would be partly based on the average cost of cars in the area. and if the car you buy is considered safer, it actually might be cheaper insurance than an older cheaper car.
which is also a problem to solve, by less cars, smaller cars, safer streets… also a luxury law on expensive cars, so if you get a fancy luxury car there’s a limit on how much insurance will pay, so if you can afford a Ferrari, you can afford to replace it, who would everyone else have to pay extra in insurance for them?
it goes from a useful car to more of a commuter car.
but even then, no one expects any costumer machine to last 20 years.
imagine saying that no one should buy a fridge because it’ll have to be replaced in 20 years?
Most of my vehicles are 20+ years old…the fuck. Telling someone they should buy new because the old ones are degraded is dumb.
They are only buying a new battery. Not the whole car.
Have you replaced anything at all those 20+ years old cars that you own? That’s the comparison we should do. Cost of maintenance.
They didn’t make that clear in the comment then. Maintenance is always required for basically anything that gets used on a regular basis but saying a entire car is done after 20 years is insane.
are there?
(genuine question, not mocking)
I thought my 2008 car was old, because I rarely see older cars, don’t have statistics here, just vibe guessing that the average age of a car was much less than 20 years
might be wrong, but if I am, I am surprised
Yea, cars aren’t cheap, and it’s way cheaper to keep them running than to buy new. Tons of people drive 20+ year old cars, and as that other poster shows 14+ is the average now. It’s going up because cars are just insanely expensive now. At least here in the USA.
i would have guessed 10 years of the US average, was so wrong, it’s 14 and rising, it was like 6 back in 2000s.
TF happened? those multiple one in a lifetime crisis really take their toll in the economy. good thing we’re approaching another one
Price of cars has increased massively. 2000 average price of new car was like 20k now it’s around 50k. Dunno about you but most people’s salaries have not increased 150%.
I’m running my 2008 Toyota until the engine melts a hole in the floor and I have to push it like the Flintstones
What Toyota? A lot of their engines will do 500k miles with normal maintenance easy. My LC had 300k miles right now.
FJ cruiser nearing 150k miles.
Just changed the radio for a 160$ android system and a huge screen, and rear view camera (another 60ish), gives me 90% of all the bells and whistles I want from modern cars.
I think it depends on where you are. Some regions cause cars to rust through and destroy themselves from salt and humidity. Others are dry as a bone, so cars last longer.
Found this:
looks like the average age is increasing, mot what I expected, but it is still about 14 years.
also found data for the EU, and they are about 12 years old (older in east Europe but not reaching 18, and newer in central Europe, about 10 years)
Car insurance doesn’t reduce significantly when the car is no longer useful.
sort of makes sense ish, insurance is mostly based on what damages you can make, so it would be partly based on the average cost of cars in the area. and if the car you buy is considered safer, it actually might be cheaper insurance than an older cheaper car.
which is also a problem to solve, by less cars, smaller cars, safer streets… also a luxury law on expensive cars, so if you get a fancy luxury car there’s a limit on how much insurance will pay, so if you can afford a Ferrari, you can afford to replace it, who would everyone else have to pay extra in insurance for them?