• RandoMcRanderton@lemmy.world
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    “Stagnation is almost certain, and stagnation is slow-motion failure.”

    This has some strong Ricky Bobby vibes, “If you ain’t first, you’re last.” I never have understood how companies are supposed to have unlimited growth. At some point when every human on earth that can use their service/product is already doing so, where else is there to go? Isn’t stagnation being almost certain just a reality of a finite world?

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      At some point when every human on earth that can use their service/product is already doing so, where else is there to go?

      Ooh, I know:

      • Charge more (for less)
      • Autocannibalize (layoffs)

      I don’t even have an MBA, can you believe that?

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      Let me preface this by saying I’m pretty anticapitalist, but I think the idea is that you create a new product or expand into a new industry. You can maintain growth for a long time that way.

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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      Dear CEOs: I will never accept 0.5% hallucinations as “A.I.” and if you don’t even know that, I want an A.I. machine cooking all your meals. If you aren’t ok with 1/200 of your meals containing poison, you’re expendable.

      Humans or even regular ass algorithms are fine. A.I. can predict protein folding. It should do a lot else unless there’s a generational leap from “making shitty images” to “as close to perfect as it gets.”

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          Na man. It’s being used extensively in many jobs. Software development especially. You’re misinformed or have a biased view on it based on your personal experience with it.

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            As a developer, we use AI “extensively” because it’s currently practically free and we rarely say no to free stuff.

            It is, indeed, slightly better than last year’s autocomplete.

            AI is also amazing at letting non-developers accomplish routine stuff that isn’t particularly interesting.

            If someone is trying to avoid paying for one afternoon of my time, an AI subscription and months of trial and error are a new option for them. So I guess that’s pretty neat.

          • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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            I use it in software development and it hasn’t changed my life. It’s slightly more convenient than last gen code completion but I’ve never worked on a project where code per hours was the hold up. One less stand-up per week would probably increase developer productivity more than GitHub Copilot.

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              Tried using Copilot on a few C# projects. I didn’t find it to be any better than Resharper. If anything it was worse because it would give me auto complete samples that were not even close to what I wanted. Not all the time but not infrequently either.

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            Even if it does the basic shit at the expense of me working one less hour a week, it’s not worth paying for. And that ignores the downsides like spam, bots, data centers needing power/water, and politicians thinking GPU cards are national security secrets.

            I don’t think we need a Skynet scenario to imagine the downsides.

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          Did you see the wack ass Quake II version Microsoft bragged about? It wasn’t even playable. A fucking 12 year old could do better.

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    Employees should start setting up an AI to prove it can do Tobi Lutke’s extremely difficult job of making a small number of important decisions every once in a while.

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    Former shopify employee here. Tobi is scum, and surrounds himself with scum. He looks up to Elon and genuinely admires him.

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      Shame, because I used to actually admire how he handled layoffs. Was a far sight better (from outside looking in) than the “thanks, here’s one extra paycheck, send your laptop back at your expense please” I’d experienced

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    Just reminding everyone that Lutke is a right-wing shitheel, and that he and Shopify explicitly platform, support and make money from Nazism.

    Carry on.

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    Dev: “Boss, we need additional storage on the database cluster to handle the latest clients we signed up.”

    Boss: “First see if AI can do it.”

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      A coworker of mine built an LLM powered FUSE filesystem as a very tongue-in-check response to the concept of letting AI do everything. It let the LLM generate responses to listing files in directories and reading contents of the files.

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      Currently the answer would be “Have you tried compressing the data?” and “Do we really need all that data per client?”. Both of which boil down to “ask the engineers to fix it for you and then come back to me if you are a failure”

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    What these CEOs don’t understand is that even an error rate as low as 1% for LLMs is unacceptable at scale. Fully automating without humans somewhere in the loop will lead to major legal liabilities down the line, esp if mistakes can’t be fixed fast.

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      Yup. If 1% of all requests result in failures and even cause damages, you‘ll quickly lose 99% of your customers.

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        It’s starting to look like the oligarchs are going to replace every position they can with AI everywhere so we have no choice but to deal with its shit.

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      I suspect everyone is just going to be a manager from now on, managing AIs instead of people.

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      What error rate do you think humans have? Because it sure as hell ain’t as low as 1%.

      But yeah, it is like the other person said: This gets rid of most employees but still leaves managers. And a manager dealing with an idiot who went off script versus an AI who hallucinated something is the same problem. If it is small? Just leave it. If it is big? Cancel the order.

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        Error rate for good, disciplined developers is easily below 1%. That’s what tests are for.

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            What would happen to such a human? Do you suppose that we would try to give them every job on the planet? Or would they just get fired?

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        I mean it is also generous to the Artificial Idiot to say it only has a 1% error rate, it’s probably closer to 10% on the low end. Which humans can be far better than in terms of just directly following the assigned task but does not factor in how people can adapt and problem solve. Most minor issues real people have can be solved without much of a fuss because of that. Meanwhile the Artificial Idiot can’t even draw a full wine glass so good luck getting it to fix its own mistake on something important.

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          Which humans can be far better than in terms of just directly following the assigned task but does not factor in how people can adapt and problem solve.

          How’s that annoying meme go? Tell me that you’ve never been a middle manager without telling me that you’ve never been a middle manager?

          You can keep pulling numbers out of your bum to argue that AI is worse. That just creates a simple bar to follow because… most workers REALLY are incompetent (now, how much of that has to do with being overworked and underpaid during late stage capitalism is a related discussion…). So all “AI Companies” have to do is beat ridiculously low metrics.

          Or we can acknowledge the real problem. “AI” is already a “better worker” than the vast majority of entry level positions (and that includes title inflation). We can either choose not to use it (fat chance) or we can acknowledge that we are looking at a fundamental shift in what employment is. And we can also realize that not hiring and training those entry level goobers is how you never have anyone who can actually “manage” the AI workers.

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      A lot was invested on the promise of AI, only to discover that it’s not capable of becoming this “super intelligence” people were banking on.

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        They were going for “super intelligence” and instead they got Cliff Clavin from Cheers.

        “It’s a little-known fact that the tan became popular in what is known as the Bronze Age.”

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        Not until they find a way to properly simulate emotions on it

        Gonna take a while for that