“And so I come full circle on this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be,” he said.

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    The problem is, thanks to blue-state gun regulations, Republicans not only have better guns than you, they outnumber you with a significantly higher order of magnitude of not only a lot more people owning guns, they also have access to better guns than what you can buy in restricted states.

    I read about how a lot of us leftist voters also have guns and don’t brag about it, but it doesn’t matter given the ratio, and we stand no chance if it’s 60-to-1 on us. And guess what political party most cops vote for? You’re fucked if you start violence; you’re fucked if they start violence.

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      I’ve told everyone I meet that it really no longer matters how you feel about the 2nd amendment. You are entitled to your opinion, but you need to go learn how to use them, full stop.

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        Breathe the copium deep, you might feel better.

        Ignore that the majority of military recruits come from rural, Republican zip codes. And that once they’re done, they return home to those areas.

        Ignore that for the last 6 years plus, that military kit like body armor, night vision, and ammo has either been unavailable or on/off multi-month back order.

        Ignore that there is a rising militia movement, and that numbers matter hugely, for both kinetic operations and more mundane goals like roadblocks or ‘holding territory’ to act within/from.

        Ignore how cartels in Mexico have proven a very hard nut to crack, despite the Army/Police having training and the cartels exploiting the poor and desperate with very little training or gear.

        But sure, Meal Team Six.

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          Sounds scary! Gosh i’d better breathe some more - what is it? Copium? - sure ok mister man! All variables are completely known an plugged in! Nothing can possib-LIE go wrong

          Hey you down with the Icy Hot Stuntaz?! Me too!

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            You’re right, we have absolutely nothing to fear. January 6th was 100% a peaceful protest, the Proud Boys only carry airsoft guns and plate carriers to look scary, and nobody, in the history of the country, has ever been lynched or attacked by mob violence.

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              I mean - if the DC cops hadn’t explicitly been instructed not to interfere, we’d have had a very different Jan 6.

              50 Ashli Babbitts and step on whatever roaches are drawn out. Done deal. The catch there is it makes the unqualified assumption the police are inclined to act against violent, seditionist MAGA garbage. And we know that’s not always the case. But it’s also a different scenario than meth’d-up hillbillies in monster trucks with a glock in each hand and one between their teeth.

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                The catch there is it makes the unqualified assumption the police are inclined to act against violent, seditionist MAGA garbage. And we know that’s not always the case.

                So you agree they’re a problem, no? The police are not going to stop them, just like they didn’t stop the people attacking college protestors on campus.

                But it’s also a different scenario than meth’d-up hillbillies in monster trucks with a glock in each hand and one between their teeth.

                Reductionism is a good way to understand the broad strokes, but it is disingenuous as fuck to claim that right wing domestic terrorism is solely drug addled hillbillies. You think the Patriot Front goons popping out of uHauls don’t have guns at home? That “we’re winning” because they got chased out of town once?

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                  I think patriot front goons are gonna shit themselves and fall down the second one of them gets their head exploded. These are not an army. These are - at best - overcompensating racists who enjoy watching stuff blow up good. At worst, sociopaths and highly paranoid incels with nothing to lose and no one to talk to. Are they gonna take over downtown? No. They might kill a few people, be the news item o’the week, standard mass shooter stuff but with matching little bandanas.

                  Look these chuds come marching out of a uhaul, and one of them takes a shotgun in the gut - invasion over. Horrifying, wrong-at-all-levels, a failure of society, government, education, and media, yes. But not a threat to the US Army. Or, hell, most over-militarized police units.

                  Now, individual acts of terrorism? Taking over East Bumble’s bad neighborhood? Yeah, possible. For awhile. These are guys who only talk and cosplay. Yes a little target practice and hey some calisthenics to unify the sweaty bros or whatever else they get up to at Camp Grab Ass. They are radicalized, they are individually dangerous, but they aren’t going to meet up at the state capitol and taliban their way into running the department of transportation.

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            An ad hominem attack against an intellectual, not against an idea, is highly flattering. It indicates that the person does not have anything intelligent to say about your message. -Nassim Taleb

            But sure, keep up the drive by memes and ignore everything I said

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          Some people choose the pleasure of ridiculing their opponents over being a little bit more certain that they won’t regret later when shit hits the fan.

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      The only thing blue states tend to restrict overall is ammo capacity in the magazine. Other than that, what are the “better” guns you are talking about?

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        They took our not-assault weapons and made people think they’re for pussies! I’m not a pussy! And it’s not an assault weapon! I pinky promise I don’t have the $1 pin to make it full auto or a bevvy of large capacity magazines because the NRA’s two year pump and dump was looking out for us!

        Where’s the fun in killing bla deer with a 30ot6?

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        Here’s an example…

        The Sig P365 XL vs the Sig P365 XMacro… very similar, but the macro has a few upgrades, including a stock 17 round magazine; which is not legal in states that limit magazine sizes to 15 rounds.

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          You can purchase the macro with a 10 rd magazine, so it’s available in any state.

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      So what you’re saying is that even if the left has guns and are trained that when it’s a 50/50 war, we have a 50/50 chance of dying.

      So, why even bother? Life is shit as it is, toss a civil war in there and the only people having fun are psychopaths who enjoy killing.

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          It’s a rather short list. I’d rather steal a boat and take my chances at sea.

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              I wouldn’t take a poor person’s boat. I’d take a yacht. I wouldn’t trash it either. And, I can sail so I’ll be fine. I’m not you.

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                Most yachts have diesel engines that couldn’t run beyond a few days without its maintenence crew and fuel. Sailing a yacht with wind sounds dumb and you will likely die like an idiot since you didn’t know this basic fact. Take me with you.

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                  The Swift Trawler 41 can be manned and maintained by a single person. Also the Oceania 31.1 can be sailed by a single person. You’d know that if you weren’t an idiot, as you say.