• beejboytyson@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I mean that’s the literal devil. If there was ANY proof you should surrender to a higher power I think that’s it.

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      2 days ago

      On one hand, yes. On the other hand, the devil himself is also a higher power, and if he’s telling you to reject higher powers, why not listen to him?

      (By the way I’m stealing my reasoning from Eserite ideology from The Gods Are Bastards, but there it’s not the devil but a recognized god of the Pantheon)

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        2 days ago

        Ok, let’s actually think this through. If the devil appeared and told you to do his bidding and forsake God that would imply he was foiling God in one way or the other. That implication is massive. Regardless of what the devil offers it would also imply that all the lore was true. If all the lore were true, using the information given, that would still imply that God is the alpha and omega. That being the case choosing god would still be the better choice, despite whatever god offers. It could even be a kick in the nuts, he’s done it before.

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          1 day ago

          it would also imply that all the lore was true.

          That’s not necessarily the case, it could simply prove that it wasn’t made up, but ultimately the lore comes from god and his agents, so if god wanted to tell a false narrative, he could manipulate the lore. Realistically, you have no way to know if the devil is actually evil.

          And you’re also twisting what I said:

          If the devil appeared and told you to do his bidding and forsake God

          The idea is a devil that doesn’t tell you to forsake god and do his bidding, but a devil that tells you to practice guitar for years so you can be good at it. It’s a devil that makes you learn things yourself. If he actually has an evil agenda, that’s really devious, but that’s kinda the point.

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            First off your first sentence has contradictions. Secondly, the premise is to reject a “higher power”. If the devil tells you to reject god and practice that’s a net 0 profit. Nothing has changed. The only difference now is you rejected God. Even the most generous interpretation of the reading would still imply to reject the supernatural to gain skill. That being said at that point I think the allegory is lost on you.

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