I mean, I know app piracy is kinda dead. But how about if I just want .mkvs for Movie, TV, Anime? .epubs for books? Music files?

Are these still gonna work? Do you think they’ll go full draconian and kill piracy outright?

VLC? Torrent Apps? VPNs?

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    Don’t use sideloading. It’s gaslighting word they planted… we own the device… should be just called installing… they are stoping you from installing what you want.

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      Install is an umbrella term for all installs.

      We want to be able to differentiate between direct and store installs.

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          It’s useful to have specific words for things.

          Sometimes you want to express that you’re specifically eating meat, not vegetables. The word food doesn’t do that.

          It’s fine to want to install “from ANY place”.

          Sometimes you want to express that you’re installing from local source not from the app store. The word install doesn’t do that.

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            So here is an idea, and hear me out on this one: you could use multiple words to indicate what you’re trying to say, I do believe language allows for that.

            Unless you want to have separate new words for walking to a hospital, walking to a school, walking to work, and walking to the bathroom, because the word walking alone can’t do that!

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              Meat used to refer to any kind of food. Now it means animal flesh. Girl used to be a gender neutral term for any child.

              Install in a smartphone context means “from the app store” now.

              No amount of “here is an idea” hohoho sarcasm is going to reverse the flow of language.

              No one’s forbidding you from using the word install.

              We have universal words like go, as in “go by foot” or “go by car” or “go by bus”.

              But we also have words like walk, run, drive, bus (as a verb), and Uber to specify how you go to a place.

              And we can have words to specify how you install an app.

              In my opinion, we’re more likely to win by reclaiming sideloading (by giving it a positive connotation) or creating new words (and giving corpo installs a negative connotation) than we are to get current and future smartphone users to go back to using an older definition of the word install.

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      I’m gonna keep using the word “sideloading” because it is a perfectly legitimate act and I refuse to let them redefine it to demonize us.
      I’m not sure why you’re helping them.

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      It’s perfectly descriptive of the method. Installed from the internet, it’s downloaded. Installed from a local source (storage, adb) it’s sideloaded.

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        No it not. If I have a local .exe file on my HD and install it on my PC you don’t say " I side loaded this software " you usually say " Iinstallled this piece of software ". Don’t succumb to the conditioning these companies want us to believe.

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        Installed from the internet, it’s downloaded. Installed from a local source (storage, adb) it’s sideloaded installed.

        Fixed that for you. Why would the local, direct installation method be the “side” one? Have you become that terminally online?

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        Your terminology is all wonky here…

        Downloading is copying a file from the network onto the local device. Installation extracts files to the appropriate directories, makes config changes, etc… “Installed from a local source” doesnt make sense, as any file you would install you would first need to download or pull off of some other media.

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          You don’t say “downloaded from a cd” do you? No, you install from a cd. If the primary delivery method for PC was via app store, you’d say “sideloaded” there too.

          Downloading from an app store doesn’t place an installer APK from an app store on the device’s storage, like you do when downloading on a PC.

          This difference is why the term “sideloading” was coined, to differentiate from using the primary delivery mechanism, the app store.

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            Downloading from the app store and installing the apk is exactly what it does. 😄

            Sideloading is one of those annoying terms that exist to make it sound cooler than what it really is.

            Regardless of what term, it’s your device you should be able to install what you want.