"On October 18 and everyday, we’ll show the world what democracy looks like," said one union leader. "No thrones! No clowns with crowns! No kings, just working people united in power to defend our democracy."
Nothing will happen? Why is the government trying to denounce it as Antifa all over the news? Why are they suddenly doing missile tests off the coast of Los Angeles the day of the protest? Because they are afraid. Because if they can’t inflict fear, they lose power.
Sorry if we’re trying to avoid another civil war. Now go kick some rocks.
I just feel like it’s just going to go back to pretrump life if protesting works. Which is better socially but not the goal imo. There’s been something wrong with america for a long time and nothing ever really changes. It’s always the two sides toying with peoples hopes and dreams for their own agendas derailing progress and replacing it with escapism and false hope.
I think it’s all broken to the core and there are so many bandaids on this carcass trying to mask the fact it’s already dead. And the death of it is deeply engrained and intertwined in the American lifestyle and culture of our living.
I don’t disagree that the America we knew is done. However, protests allows people to network together - to see others are concerned and want change. This will be important for fostering the new civilizations that arise from the ashes of American society. I want Thiel’s Praxis to fail, and many democracies to emerge.
I think we’ll get to something closer to European-style democratic socialism, and that will be measurably better than what we’ve had for average people, but it will have been an awful lot of pain to get even that far. A stronger socialist base, one where the workers properly seize the means of production, is not going to happen.
I say this because the Republican Party will tear itself apart with internal factions as soon as Trump is gone. The Democratic leadership won’t know what to do with voters who actually expect them to do something. They may become the conservative party by staying exactly where they are, or they may also collapse. Either way, American conservatism as we know it will die as a meaningful political force.
If we want better than that, then giant protests need to be happening weekly, if not daily. The organization around it then needs to look to escalate things towards a general strike. I severely doubt this will happen.
We need to break from the sociopathic “morality” that many have here. We need to remember that everyone deserves a degree of dignity and to not shit all over each other.
If you kill the billionaire…. And their money goes to the children…. You still have a billionaire.
If you kill a billionaire—and take the money, their (now poor) kids aren’t going to be like “oh yeah cool dude was a douche and I hate money,” they’ll get revenge. That’s not going to be a long term solution.
The reason you’re clutching your pearls is because you’re a center-at-best shill for the oligarch. 🤷♂️
Dude. Go touch fucking grass. Please. You clearly have no grounding in reality any more and have made yourself so mad that you think only the most violent responses are reasonable.
I think you have the idea that you will one day be a billionaire or, be worth anything more than you are now. Unfortunately, things are only going to be getting worse… And that is not worse before better that’s just worse and forever. Enjoy sucking the dicks a billionaires, they are not going to help you.
You can have lefty feelings all you want, but those feelings are just feelings, like hopes and dreams. You want there to be a beautiful world but you don’t want to do anything to get it, and you won’t even talk about what needs to really happen. You want to live in this fantasy world where no one has to die and everyone just gives up all their money willingly. But that is not what’s happening. We are in a free fall Into global dictatorship.
While I too am skeptical of the true commitment of large section of the US population to freedom (in the real sense not in the American “I support free speech!” sense), I would not underestimate the fundamental unpredictability of history.
Not a fan of Lenin, but the notion that “there are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen" is a powerful observation of human history and behaviour.
Not saying this is going to be a inflection point, but there are always steps to reach a given inflection point.
When I was living in the US I didn’t find local polemics about free speech to be convincing.
It honestly felt more like a theatrical way to highlight one’s alleged “independent” mindset and virtues. It just didn’t seem genuine.
Recent development have largely proven my thinking on this issue. Many Americans who claim to support “freedom of speech” don’t understand the concept and don’t really care about it (beyond theatrical repetition of phrases that they’ve heard other locals use).
That’s of course a free speech issue. But the contrast between the alleged deep commitment to free speech claimed by many Americans and the fact that this issue wasn’t that much of a deal-breaker in support for the current US administrator suggests that theatrics and ostentatiousness are a significant driver of free speech polemics.
Not in the commercial sense I’d say; there’s plenty of people who believe in this sort of rhetoric, and this user has been spouting it consistently. Tankie-adjacent, if not full-blown tankie.
Get your no kings posters from Amazon.com!
Nothing will happen this time, just like last time.
Whenever protests get bigger, the movement grows.
Nothing will happen? Why is the government trying to denounce it as Antifa all over the news? Why are they suddenly doing missile tests off the coast of Los Angeles the day of the protest? Because they are afraid. Because if they can’t inflict fear, they lose power.
Sorry if we’re trying to avoid another civil war. Now go kick some rocks.
I just feel like it’s just going to go back to pretrump life if protesting works. Which is better socially but not the goal imo. There’s been something wrong with america for a long time and nothing ever really changes. It’s always the two sides toying with peoples hopes and dreams for their own agendas derailing progress and replacing it with escapism and false hope.
I think it’s all broken to the core and there are so many bandaids on this carcass trying to mask the fact it’s already dead. And the death of it is deeply engrained and intertwined in the American lifestyle and culture of our living.
I don’t disagree that the America we knew is done. However, protests allows people to network together - to see others are concerned and want change. This will be important for fostering the new civilizations that arise from the ashes of American society. I want Thiel’s Praxis to fail, and many democracies to emerge.
I think we’ll get to something closer to European-style democratic socialism, and that will be measurably better than what we’ve had for average people, but it will have been an awful lot of pain to get even that far. A stronger socialist base, one where the workers properly seize the means of production, is not going to happen.
I say this because the Republican Party will tear itself apart with internal factions as soon as Trump is gone. The Democratic leadership won’t know what to do with voters who actually expect them to do something. They may become the conservative party by staying exactly where they are, or they may also collapse. Either way, American conservatism as we know it will die as a meaningful political force.
If we want better than that, then giant protests need to be happening weekly, if not daily. The organization around it then needs to look to escalate things towards a general strike. I severely doubt this will happen.
We need to break from the sociopathic “morality” that many have here. We need to remember that everyone deserves a degree of dignity and to not shit all over each other.
Eugenics advocate and a useless coward? Color me unsurprised.
You are the one who thinks killing billionaires is “eugenics.” So, I’m not surprised that you’re siding with conservatives
Hey. Killing kids cause of their “blood” is fucking eugenics. Dehumanize them however you like, doesn’t change that fact.
If you kill the billionaire…. And their money goes to the children…. You still have a billionaire.
If you kill a billionaire—and take the money, their (now poor) kids aren’t going to be like “oh yeah cool dude was a douche and I hate money,” they’ll get revenge. That’s not going to be a long term solution.
The reason you’re clutching your pearls is because you’re a center-at-best shill for the oligarch. 🤷♂️
Dude. Go touch fucking grass. Please. You clearly have no grounding in reality any more and have made yourself so mad that you think only the most violent responses are reasonable.
I think you have the idea that you will one day be a billionaire or, be worth anything more than you are now. Unfortunately, things are only going to be getting worse… And that is not worse before better that’s just worse and forever. Enjoy sucking the dicks a billionaires, they are not going to help you.
I’m a fucking leftist, you twat. I’m just not fucking horny for murder, you creep. Fuck off
You can have lefty feelings all you want, but those feelings are just feelings, like hopes and dreams. You want there to be a beautiful world but you don’t want to do anything to get it, and you won’t even talk about what needs to really happen. You want to live in this fantasy world where no one has to die and everyone just gives up all their money willingly. But that is not what’s happening. We are in a free fall Into global dictatorship.
You’re not a leftist, you’re a fedposter.
While I too am skeptical of the true commitment of large section of the US population to freedom (in the real sense not in the American “I support free speech!” sense), I would not underestimate the fundamental unpredictability of history.
Not a fan of Lenin, but the notion that “there are decades when nothing happens; and there are weeks when decades happen" is a powerful observation of human history and behaviour.
Not saying this is going to be a inflection point, but there are always steps to reach a given inflection point.
Supporting free speech is supporting freedom, don’t true Scotsman it
When I was living in the US I didn’t find local polemics about free speech to be convincing.
It honestly felt more like a theatrical way to highlight one’s alleged “independent” mindset and virtues. It just didn’t seem genuine.
Recent development have largely proven my thinking on this issue. Many Americans who claim to support “freedom of speech” don’t understand the concept and don’t really care about it (beyond theatrical repetition of phrases that they’ve heard other locals use).
How about Trump taking people off television via FCC?
That’s of course a free speech issue. But the contrast between the alleged deep commitment to free speech claimed by many Americans and the fact that this issue wasn’t that much of a deal-breaker in support for the current US administrator suggests that theatrics and ostentatiousness are a significant driver of free speech polemics.
Does it smell like astroturf in here?
Not in the commercial sense I’d say; there’s plenty of people who believe in this sort of rhetoric, and this user has been spouting it consistently. Tankie-adjacent, if not full-blown tankie.
Lick that boot harder baby, they love it
Kindly ingest feces
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