I’ve never understood things like pervasive distrust of Jews, but blanket approval of all things done by Israel because Jewish people are “God’s chosen people.” It’s so much mental gymnastics to selectively justify hating Muslims and any Jew living in a large city, and completely ignores the point of the NT, which was to not make the religion tied to blood lines.
Historically that’s a manufactured thing. Christians were not allowed usury, charging interest on loans. Jews didn’t have that limitation. One solution they came up with was barring Jews from doing other jobs and forcing them into the money lender role, with the Christian landlord asking for their cut in fees. That gave Jews a reputation for being distrustful greedy bankers.
Another part was that Jews were quite spread out over a lot of areas and didn’t have a “home country” to back them. You see a similar level of distrust, historically and even today, against Roma and Sinti.
So Jews were always a minority that was easy to scapegoat for all sorts of problems.
Israel is integral to their eschatology. They can’t have Armageddon without certain conditions being met. Supporting Israel is intended to facilitate the the creation of those conditions.
I’ve never understood that. Like yes, I’m sure the rapture will be a wonderful thing when it eventually happens (especially given the conditions the Bible says it’ll happen in) but we’re literally told not to live to fulfill it. It’s not some endgame event we need to trigger, it’s a promise made for some point in the future we’re not meant to know (and certainly shouldn’t be trying to make it there). We should be living for God and helping our fellow man and trying to make the world a better goddamn place. Why the hell can’t people see that?
It makes sense if you don’t think of it from the viewpoint of principles and ideals.
Antisemites are in general all for zionism. Antisemitic Brits were the ones who made Israel possible in the first place, and even the Nazis supported the creation of Israel. Because it’s not about the Jews having their own country where they can (supposedly) live in peace, safety and freedom, but it’s about Jews moving far, far away.
And with Israel being a western “outpost” pretty much in the centre of the Muslim world, there’s a secondary effect: If Israel and the Muslim countries around it are fighting, that hurts Muslims without causing too much trouble for people living e.g. in the USA.
(These are obviously not my views. I’m just trying to explain why many antisemites are pro Israel.)
I mean he was a pretty shit Jew. Fellow Jews tried to stone him to death “for blasphemy, because [he], a mere man, claim[ed] to be God” (John 10:33).
I think the hating Jews thing has nothing to do with Christianity, though, it was always just an excuse. There’s no reason Abrahamic religions should get on or not based on any scripture, it’s all just politics of the time.
For eg. having different holy days, Friday, Saturday and Sunday was all so they could share a place of worship, this is largely forgotten or covered up (literally, in some older buildings).
It’s tied into revelations (which these people tend to revere more than any other part of the Bible). There’s some bullshit about all the Jews returning to Israel being the start of the end of the world so that everybody can go straight to heaven do not pass GO do not collect $200. So they don’t actually care about the Jews of Israel they just want to go straight to heaven so they want all the Jews to “go home”.
I’ve never understood things like pervasive distrust of Jews, but blanket approval of all things done by Israel because Jewish people are “God’s chosen people.” It’s so much mental gymnastics to selectively justify hating Muslims and any Jew living in a large city, and completely ignores the point of the NT, which was to not make the religion tied to blood lines.
Historically that’s a manufactured thing. Christians were not allowed usury, charging interest on loans. Jews didn’t have that limitation. One solution they came up with was barring Jews from doing other jobs and forcing them into the money lender role, with the Christian landlord asking for their cut in fees. That gave Jews a reputation for being distrustful greedy bankers.
Another part was that Jews were quite spread out over a lot of areas and didn’t have a “home country” to back them. You see a similar level of distrust, historically and even today, against Roma and Sinti.
So Jews were always a minority that was easy to scapegoat for all sorts of problems.
Also Jews refused to become Christians and Christianity wants to convert people.
The most entertaining part for me is that Jesus was a Jew, so Christians hating Jews as a group means they hate Jesus.
There are alot of American Christians who are obsessed with End Times Prophecy which Israel plays a big part in.
Israel is integral to their eschatology. They can’t have Armageddon without certain conditions being met. Supporting Israel is intended to facilitate the the creation of those conditions.
I’ve never understood that. Like yes, I’m sure the rapture will be a wonderful thing when it eventually happens (especially given the conditions the Bible says it’ll happen in) but we’re literally told not to live to fulfill it. It’s not some endgame event we need to trigger, it’s a promise made for some point in the future we’re not meant to know (and certainly shouldn’t be trying to make it there). We should be living for God and helping our fellow man and trying to make the world a better goddamn place. Why the hell can’t people see that?
Because most religious people are pretty fucking stupid when it comes to critical thinking the moment religion is involved?
Thanks for reminding me of every Thanksgiving since 1996.
It makes sense if you don’t think of it from the viewpoint of principles and ideals.
Antisemites are in general all for zionism. Antisemitic Brits were the ones who made Israel possible in the first place, and even the Nazis supported the creation of Israel. Because it’s not about the Jews having their own country where they can (supposedly) live in peace, safety and freedom, but it’s about Jews moving far, far away.
And with Israel being a western “outpost” pretty much in the centre of the Muslim world, there’s a secondary effect: If Israel and the Muslim countries around it are fighting, that hurts Muslims without causing too much trouble for people living e.g. in the USA.
(These are obviously not my views. I’m just trying to explain why many antisemites are pro Israel.)
They hate jews but worship a jew. So fucking weird.
I mean he was a pretty shit Jew. Fellow Jews tried to stone him to death “for blasphemy, because [he], a mere man, claim[ed] to be God” (John 10:33).
I think the hating Jews thing has nothing to do with Christianity, though, it was always just an excuse. There’s no reason Abrahamic religions should get on or not based on any scripture, it’s all just politics of the time.
For eg. having different holy days, Friday, Saturday and Sunday was all so they could share a place of worship, this is largely forgotten or covered up (literally, in some older buildings).
It’s tied into revelations (which these people tend to revere more than any other part of the Bible). There’s some bullshit about all the Jews returning to Israel being the start of the end of the world so that everybody can go straight to heaven do not pass GO do not collect $200. So they don’t actually care about the Jews of Israel they just want to go straight to heaven so they want all the Jews to “go home”.