I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.
I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.
If you’re really gonna say deliberately connecting to an instance with the stated goal of dismantling and inserting a communist ideology via a propaganda war is tantamount to “just having a stance” then it should be clear to everyone what a bad actor you are.
Imagine if I publicaly stated that the goal of my instance was to build a userbase, infiltrate .ml, dismantle communist ideology, and spread liberal propaganda. Are you really gonna pretend you’d leap to my defense when Dessalines obviously banned/defederated me?
Hell, he loves to abuse rule 2 to silence “Liberals” constantly. Yet you don’t seem to have anything to say about that…
Hexbear did not state that their goals were to wage a “propaganda war.” They know that as a leftist instance, their users were going to obviously have ideological disagreements with the liberalism on other instances, and encouraged being more calm and bringing sources rather than just posting PPB or getting into shit-flinging fights.
Hexbear existed for years before federation. It’s a leftist instance for leftists, it isn’t the homebase of infiltrating other instances or any such nonsense. A good number of Hexbear users are against federation because they want to keep a protected space for marginalized users that other instances do not have the same level of care for.
As for banning right-wingers? I’m fine with it. I don’t care for hateful views like zionism, ableism, misogyny, homophobia, imperialist apologia, etc to be respected as some holy right to “free speech.” I don’t think Lemmy.world is bad for having banned dissenting viewpoints, I think Lemmy.world is bad for banning leftists and upholding right-wing ideology as the only acceptable one. I’m not some “free-speech absolutist.”
I’m not a bad actor. I’m open and honest with my views, my stances, and my positions. No, I would not come to your defense if you were being an anti-communist or spreading apologia for imperialism, NATO, etc, or were talking about how good the DNC or capitalism are. I’m a communist, I say that proudly and openly, and I don’t try to hide behind excuses for that.
A better world is possible, where we plan production and distribution to suit the needs of everyone, rather than relying on brutal systems of imperialism and plunder from the international working class. If you want to learn more about what I believe and why, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list, check it out if you wish.
Not sure why you would post the source and then lie about what it says:
“I can assure you there will be no lemmygrad brigades, that energy would be better funneled into the current war against liberalism on the wider fediverse.”
“All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.”
At least you’re open about being a hypocrite though, when it comes to banning people for just “having stances”
If you read the actual post itself, on Hexbear, it is phrased in a manner that acknowledges what we all know: if leftists see right-wing nonsense, they will try to debunk it, and that it asks users to please not do so with PPB or whatnot but by being professional and bringing sources. There are no coordinated brigades.
I’m not hypocritical either, it’s absolutely correct that Lemmy.world banned Hexbear because it’s a group of vocal leftists and that’s unacceptable to the right-wing admins. I don’t care about free-speech absolutism, what I care about is what stances are allowed and what aren’t. Liberalism should not be protected, leftist views should be. Or do you think racist speech should be protected? Nonsense, I’m sure we both can agree on that, the difference is that I think leftist views are correct and morally just, while right-wing views are not.
I mean, it’s obvious why you’re lying. I just didn’t expect you to lean right into the whole “there is no war in Ba Sing Se” vibe.
For the first, it’s saying exactly what I said, that it’s encouraging users that do choose to engage to do so with professionalism.
For the latter, it isn’t a statement of intent, but a description of what is actually going on, a struggle between liberalism and leftism. There are prominent brigaders and drama farmers on .world, sh.itjust.works, piefed.world, etc that engage in ideological propagandizing against leftists, just like there are leftists that do so against right-wingers. This isn’t a command to Hexbear users to go out and disseminate spooky scary leftist ideology, but a description of what already exists.
So no, I’m not lying, you’re either unintentionally misreading the post and my comments, or are deliberately smearing me.
Propaganda wars and professionalism are not mutually exclusive. Nice try.
You don’t get dizzy from so much spinning?
I mean, by that logic, Lemmy World admins never specifically stated that they were defederating because of people holding viewpoints they don’t like. You want to have it both ways so bad it’s disgusting.
Maybe these tactics actually work in Communist spaces? That would explain a lot…
The Lemmy.world admins manufactured the idea of Hexbear users intentionally brigading lemmy.world threads before they even federated, choosing to pre-emptively defederate, and directly cited ideological differences as the reason. Lemmy.world does not care about “idelogical warfare” itself as bad, as there are constant drama farms and prominent users and comms on Lemmy.world that directly state their intent is to push anti-communist views, yet these users are protected, made moderators, etc. Logically, therefore, it’s the views that matter, not the idea of “protecting against brigading.”
If the Lemmy.world admins were honest, they would just outright state that they don’t like communism. Hexbear is honest, and directly states they ban right-wingers. Lemmy.world tries to have their cake and eat it too.
Quote it. Your evidence so far is “they’re lying”.