Great points.

I think when we talk about these ideologies, the point is often being made, that it’s not true socialism for example.

Which I personally think is not that relevant to go into, because we dont have true democracy either. Nor true capitalism.

It is also hard to have internet debates about them, because the topics are so complex to understand when they are in use.

Even to understand how the Nordics work and why, cant be explained with all the characters available in a post.