Maybe I’m just cynical, but I feel like everyone cancelling is going to forget about this in a few months when the news cycle moves on and a new Star Wars show comes out or something.
Has a disorganized boycott like this ever worked? (honest question)
Will they say f’it and bring Kimmel back in the face of the government shutting them down?
No
Will they consider a 10% loss, even if ephemeral, in their next action? Sure. But they’ve already made this calculation, they already knew what was on the line and they weighed it against what the administration was going to do for/against them and it made financial sense.
I’m down to bash big corp as much as the next person, but this is a failure of the people in letting the government do whatever they want. If the people aren’t going to stand against the government, why do we expect the corporations to?
For me, it’s not about boycott to affect. I just don’t want to give my money to what I do not believe. It’s a personal choice, I can’t control anything, I am just trying to live my life. This is a small thing I can control.
It’s like why delete my Reddit account to be here.
A lot of us are only here because we wanted to join a consumer action against Reddit. The first few months I was on Lemmy every post was about how Reddit users were fleeing in droves and we were going to show those big bad corporate clowns over at Reddit not to mess with us and Reddit would collapse within weeks.
Welp. Reddit is doing just fine, so yeah, color me cynical as well. I like it better here though.
Reddit is a wasteland where every informative post is now marked as DELETED by those of us who torched our donated content as we left. It’s full of garbage posts now, and mods who don’t care.
Do they still manage to attract ad revenue, sure, so does X after Musk turned it into a fascist turd bath. Is it as valuable as it used to be? Not by a longshot.
Oh, yes, I 100% agree with this. I’m shocked and horrified every time I get curious enough to poke my head back in there and see how it’s going. Yeah, I only meant they are doing fine in terms of weathering the boycott efforts financially. The Reddit I knew and loved is long gone.
I agree and I thought more people would be frustrated enough to leave Reddit. But there are enough of us here now that there is an alternative to Reddit that is viable. Hopefully that becomes common knowledge and they realize leaving Reddit doesn’t mean not having a community, so they feel encouraged to switch.
I second this. From experience, I noticed more hyper local subs on Reddit are very active, but the more larger general subs seem to endlessly repost old content or share exaggerated titles/content. I do wish there were more of a local presence on Lemmy, not everyone wants to go to Reddit or Facebook Groups for that.
Yeah I wish only for a few things that need a bigger base, sub for my city on Reddit was so helpful, and I miss Normal Nudes and Naked Progress, the NSFW stuff on Lemmy is more onlyfans girls & AI stuff, Reddit had such a massive reach they had everything, more people means more niche stuff.
Overall though? So much nicer here. And I am not sure you can have both, it’s probably nicer because it’s smaller.
Lemmy does need to grow past everyone browsing on “all” (which I do) and then getting outraged for no reason that there’s a woman-only sub. Yes, we need specialist communities that aren’t for everyone too.
A big plus is that I can actually interact with people here in a usually lighthearted manner. You can still find that on Reddit, but it is extremely hard to do now unless you have some extremely niche interests.
It’s much easier to stick to a boycott when it requires a layer of active acceptance and payment to acquiesce.
Reddit is just… there. A query on basically any search engine is going to serve you up reddit links, and clicking one of them costs you nothing.* Since you don’t have to commit to the decision there’s far less resistance to backsliding.
*Yes, I know, there is a privacy and personal content/traffic cost. We both know that’s not what I’m talking about.
Target definitely took a hit, but I think that actually proves the point of the question. The backlash was loud and visible, but do we know that shoppers haven’t already returned to normal now that it’s out of the current news cycle?
Target stock is down but it is hard to tell. There have been some mismanaged Target stores in my general area that have closed, but there are also many that seem to be run well and are always full of people. You can compare it to Walmart but I don’t think it is a 1:1 comparison since most Walmart locations are also full blown grocery stores and they typically have more locations in suburb/exurb/rural areas that have fewer shopping options.
My local Target has a serious Kmart-at-the-bitter-end vibe going. Lots of empty shelves, stuff sloppily displayed, sullen and unhelpful workers etc. etc. Everything in the grocery section is way more expensive than it is at local grocery stores. I just don’t get why anybody shops there. I only go there because I’m a school bus driver and a good chunk of the tips I get from parents are in the form of Target gift cards. But all I can find worth buying is cheap bicycle gear.
The very personal and highly disorganized boycott of American goods and services by Canadians is definitely having an effect on several sectors including tourism, alcohol, and media.
Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.
Because the regime and his sycophantic cunts are fucked and can suck our collective dick.
Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.
fam in vegas is looking to move because the writing is on the wall. foreigners coming to gamble in this shit? yeah let’s go to munich 1940 for a happy time. :|
Yes. Boycotts don’t need to be organized to be effective. Some (def not all, and not usually Disney for that matter) to listen to fan and customer feedback.
Companies track their income trends extremely closely. Even a blip of 1% will be reported on in every shareholder meeting and need to be explained.
Maybe I’m just cynical, but I feel like everyone cancelling is going to forget about this in a few months when the news cycle moves on and a new Star Wars show comes out or something.
Has a disorganized boycott like this ever worked? (honest question)
Depends on your expectations.
Will they say f’it and bring Kimmel back in the face of the government shutting them down?
No
Will they consider a 10% loss, even if ephemeral, in their next action? Sure. But they’ve already made this calculation, they already knew what was on the line and they weighed it against what the administration was going to do for/against them and it made financial sense.
I’m down to bash big corp as much as the next person, but this is a failure of the people in letting the government do whatever they want. If the people aren’t going to stand against the government, why do we expect the corporations to?
Apparently they didn’t. Top executives are both pissed at Bob Iger and scrambling to figure out how to right the ship.
For me, it’s not about boycott to affect. I just don’t want to give my money to what I do not believe. It’s a personal choice, I can’t control anything, I am just trying to live my life. This is a small thing I can control.
It’s like why delete my Reddit account to be here.
Ye I don’t want my money to support fascism, simple as that.
I ended up being a bit of a hypocrite by not cancelling Hulu when Disney bought them. I gave money to Big Mouse. Not anymore.
A lot of us are only here because we wanted to join a consumer action against Reddit. The first few months I was on Lemmy every post was about how Reddit users were fleeing in droves and we were going to show those big bad corporate clowns over at Reddit not to mess with us and Reddit would collapse within weeks.
Welp. Reddit is doing just fine, so yeah, color me cynical as well. I like it better here though.
Reddit is a wasteland where every informative post is now marked as DELETED by those of us who torched our donated content as we left. It’s full of garbage posts now, and mods who don’t care.
Do they still manage to attract ad revenue, sure, so does X after Musk turned it into a fascist turd bath. Is it as valuable as it used to be? Not by a longshot.
Oh, yes, I 100% agree with this. I’m shocked and horrified every time I get curious enough to poke my head back in there and see how it’s going. Yeah, I only meant they are doing fine in terms of weathering the boycott efforts financially. The Reddit I knew and loved is long gone.
I agree and I thought more people would be frustrated enough to leave Reddit. But there are enough of us here now that there is an alternative to Reddit that is viable. Hopefully that becomes common knowledge and they realize leaving Reddit doesn’t mean not having a community, so they feel encouraged to switch.
I second this. From experience, I noticed more hyper local subs on Reddit are very active, but the more larger general subs seem to endlessly repost old content or share exaggerated titles/content. I do wish there were more of a local presence on Lemmy, not everyone wants to go to Reddit or Facebook Groups for that.
Yeah I wish only for a few things that need a bigger base, sub for my city on Reddit was so helpful, and I miss Normal Nudes and Naked Progress, the NSFW stuff on Lemmy is more onlyfans girls & AI stuff, Reddit had such a massive reach they had everything, more people means more niche stuff.
Overall though? So much nicer here. And I am not sure you can have both, it’s probably nicer because it’s smaller.
Lemmy does need to grow past everyone browsing on “all” (which I do) and then getting outraged for no reason that there’s a woman-only sub. Yes, we need specialist communities that aren’t for everyone too.
For what its worth, I am not browsing “all”. I have two communities in bookmarks and I come and check what was posted in those.
I was pretty late to come to Lemmy though…
What are the two communities?
I only ask out of general interest as its such a specific number, if you’re not comfortable sharing, don’t feel obliged.
A big plus is that I can actually interact with people here in a usually lighthearted manner. You can still find that on Reddit, but it is extremely hard to do now unless you have some extremely niche interests.
Reddit had no monetary cost.
It’s much easier to stick to a boycott when it requires a layer of active acceptance and payment to acquiesce.
Reddit is just… there. A query on basically any search engine is going to serve you up reddit links, and clicking one of them costs you nothing.* Since you don’t have to commit to the decision there’s far less resistance to backsliding.
*Yes, I know, there is a privacy and personal content/traffic cost. We both know that’s not what I’m talking about.
Target was affected by boycotts in a way that other retailers are definitely aware of.
Target definitely took a hit, but I think that actually proves the point of the question. The backlash was loud and visible, but do we know that shoppers haven’t already returned to normal now that it’s out of the current news cycle?
Target stock is down but it is hard to tell. There have been some mismanaged Target stores in my general area that have closed, but there are also many that seem to be run well and are always full of people. You can compare it to Walmart but I don’t think it is a 1:1 comparison since most Walmart locations are also full blown grocery stores and they typically have more locations in suburb/exurb/rural areas that have fewer shopping options.
My local Target has a serious Kmart-at-the-bitter-end vibe going. Lots of empty shelves, stuff sloppily displayed, sullen and unhelpful workers etc. etc. Everything in the grocery section is way more expensive than it is at local grocery stores. I just don’t get why anybody shops there. I only go there because I’m a school bus driver and a good chunk of the tips I get from parents are in the form of Target gift cards. But all I can find worth buying is cheap bicycle gear.
Yeah man, otherwise we wouldn’t be participating in this conversation right?
The very personal and highly disorganized boycott of American goods and services by Canadians is definitely having an effect on several sectors including tourism, alcohol, and media.
Tourism alone has resulted in a loss of about 30 BILLION.
Because the regime and his sycophantic cunts are fucked and can suck our collective dick.
fam in vegas is looking to move because the writing is on the wall. foreigners coming to gamble in this shit? yeah let’s go to munich 1940 for a happy time. :|
Cancel but setup stremio + alldebrid at the same time.
If they cancel Disney the same way they cancel amazon, this is gonna be huge(ly disappointing)
Yes. Boycotts don’t need to be organized to be effective. Some (def not all, and not usually Disney for that matter) to listen to fan and customer feedback.
Companies track their income trends extremely closely. Even a blip of 1% will be reported on in every shareholder meeting and need to be explained.
No, these boycotts have never worked.