• Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    11 hours ago

    president “epstein” trying very hard to shift public focus away from himself, and the fact that ghislaine being on work release isnt gaining more attention is something.

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    I don’t want to be the contrarian but:

    Two U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said it cost about $530 per Guard member, per day to be deployed.

    How?! How could sending people that are already on the payroll to a different city cost this much? And you are really going to push such a claim, with the source being “some guys said so” and pretend to be a news organization we should take seriously?

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      Your average national guardsman isn’t getting paid $530/day. That’s almost $200k/year.

      Most of that cost is related specifically to this mission, just divided between all the personnel deployed for this statistic.

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      Because they are taking the entire cost of the operation, and dividing it by the number of folks deployed.

      So that includes logistics, housing, food, equipment maintenance. Including those big expensive fucking trucks, etc etc. And of course, the MIC gets a big cut too.

      Payroll is probably a small portion of that $530.

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      First, I’m going to heavily qualify this statement. Like, a lot. I have never served in any military capacity and I’m repeating something a member of the Canadian military told me, which could easily be wrong for 20 reasons.

      National Guardsman are similar to our “reservists” and are not paid when inactive. If additional troops who were already trained but not active, we’re then activated, that would account for additional costs.

      So yeah, massive grain of salt but you asked and someone gave me a reasonable answer that seemed to fit. I have done no fact checking, though.

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        Thanks for the explanation. My understanding was that in the US, the national guard also had regular troops, not just reservists, but maybe they did call the reservists despite that or I misunderstood/misremembered.

        Regardless, I still think an article explicitly about the cost of the deployment giving no information on this is absurd.

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    23 hours ago

    Same as it ever was.

    The Cruelty Is The Point.

    They’d put all the money in a literal pile and set it on literal fire before they’d just help people who need the help.

    If I had to characterize the US govt when it comes to helping its citizens I’d compare it to Immortan Joe.

    Immortan Joe: Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!

    • That Weird Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      the stupid thing is, scandinavia mostly cured their homeless problem. They put up homeless apartment buildings, then assisted them to reintegrate into society, by getting a job, finding a place to live etc. They… saw the humanity and helped them achieve something. Oh, but the USA would never help people down on their luck. Ugh.

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          Hard disagree. Most of our billionaires will have lived long, happy lives, dying in peace and comfort surrounded by loving family after decades of cruelty. For each of them, it was perfectly sensible.

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            Billionaires genuinely do not consider the people beneath them to be anything other than pawns and slaves. They really, REALLY don’t care.

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            Billionaires are selfish and whatever cruelty just comes second to that. What we’re seeing with Trump and ICE is cruelty as the main purpose and if we’re using the Nazi’s as the established pattern, we’ll see it end that way as well.

            Well, unless climate change cuts it short, which is what I was really getting as with “long run”.

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              Hard disagree. The cruelty is the point. They’re spending resources making sure that we suffer when it does nothing to benefit them.

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    Sure but helping the homeless would make them actual Christians following the teachings of Christ and we know that now what Republican Christians do.

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    “Showy? Useless? Expensive? Hurts poor people? Sounds pretty good but are you sure there is no way to put a yuge golden TRUMP sign on it?”

    Trump (probably)

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    I agree with the general point of this post. But FYI any city that has put serious money into housing the homeless has found the homeless didn’t get housed. No amount of money ends famine in Africa and no amount of money eliminates homelessness.

    So yes, having national guards stand on street corners all day is a very stupid waste of money. But you can’t compare it to a fictional amount of money someone just made up on the spot. Because anytime someone has made up a similar figure, and then gotten it, that number didn’t do the thing they said it would. So I don’t think anyone has shown they know how to estimate that number.

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      What a cynical take. European cities with proper social safety nets have addressed the problem very well, and while homelessness is at non-zero levels, it’s insignificant compared to what we see in the US. “We’ll never solve it completely” doesn’t justify not trying.

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      Sure, if you half ass it but if you’re serious it’s a a soluble issue. For example

      https://www.weforum.org/stories/2018/02/how-finland-solved-homelessness/

      The Finns have turned the traditional approach to homelessness on its head.

      There can be a number of reasons as to why someone ends up homeless, including sudden job loss or family breakdown, severe substance abuse or mental health problems. But most homelessness policies work on the premise that the homeless person has to sort those problems out first before they can get permanent accommodation.

      Finland does the opposite - it gives them a home first.

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        If the causes of famine include corruption and repression, then more food or more money will just be taken by that corruption.

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    What is actually happening to homeless people in DC at the moment?

    The article is a bit vague. Some arrests, tickets?

    I imagine far worse when the national guard is being called to specifically address this issue. Overall I am hearing little about the fate of the ones being targeted by the grey shirts. Does anyone have more info for an interested party?

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    They don’t want to help people. They want to surpress people. To those people it hurts to help but they feel pleasure from harm. Those types are everywhere in our society but they have found a common home in maga.