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        1 day ago

        Riiight, and how much of that is due to things being in actual “real-world” use, and how much of that is due to speculation?

        • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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          Oh yes. A huge amount of speculation. Just like NVDA.

          My point is that you can say a lot of negative things about crypto, but you can’t say it doesn’t work. It definitely works.

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            It doesn’t work as a currency. It “works” as a speculative investment in that the bubble hasn’t yet popped.

            But, what if the bubble doesn’t actually pop, and the prices remain at the current levels, more or less, for another couple of decades. If that happens, will cryptocurrencies be seen to “work”?

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              I think i made a mistake by using the market cap as evidence that it works, because this just shows people believe it is valuable. Not that it works.

              What I mean is that the technology is mature and adopted by a large number of independent users. However, it doesn’t yet have mass adoption because the user experience is not yet seamlessly integrated into legacy systems.

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        I own crypto because I believe in idea of decentralised money, but I acknowledge that current solutions are just all bad in one way or another. If fiat disappeared tomorrow and everyone would be forced to use crypto daily, it would be a shitshow.

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            21 hours ago

            You kidding? How many transactions per second bitcoin blockchain can do?

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              20 hours ago

              Lightning can, in theory, do one million transactions per second. But Bitcoin networks aren’t really a drop in replacement for Swift.

              Banks like J.P. Morgan prefer chains like Canton that are privacy enabled and have no upper limit on transaction.

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                  You’ve not heard of it because it is banking focused. It’s the newer option made to compete with Quorum and Corda.

                  It is decentralized, but it is not open write access. It a public permissioned network of private ledgers.

                  You and I could validate that the network is cryptographicly consistent, but we don’t have decentralized permission to interact.

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                    18 hours ago

                    So, not decentralised in it’s original sense, if a pack of people decide which operations are allowed. Decentralised as in “not a single bank”.

                    See, this is what I mean when I say they all have flaws.

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        There is always someone who reckons they can get something from nothing. Also long as they exist the bubbles will continue