You’re both selling them short. The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to. They are each doing their own horrible things, just trading a bit of horrible culture now and then.
The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to
Which ones are those? I struggle to come up with something that US is doing better than the UK. The whole freedom of speech issue might be the one where at least it’s not that obvious, but I would argue UK is just more upfront about it, and even though more topics are explicitly forbidden in the UK, you wouldn’t be dissapeared from the streets by an unmarked van about it, so I would say it’s still better.
You clearly haven’t been paying attention. Both have a ton of issues. You could argue either is worse, but I don’t think anyone watching would say they aren’t on similar paths. The UK in particular has a lot of holdover issues from never fully reforming their government and only slowly transforming from monarchy to constitutional Republic, and still carrying all the baggage, like the house of lords for example.
Not arguing with that. I’m struggling to find something that is worse in the UK than in US right now, that’s it, I’m comparing the two countries right now. Whatever holdover issues UK has, US has it worse as far as I can see.
Well until quite recently, the UK was quite famously blazing the trail towards isolationism by shooting themselves in the foot with Brexit. The political gong show that followed was, I’m sure, absolutely humiliating. Surveillance culture in the UK is way, way ahead of almost any other Western democracy. I admit it’s harder to find things in the last few years that the UK is worse at, but examples still exist.
I think he is saying they are following the same path, just a few steps behind. So if the US is running over a cliff, the UK will probably consider that a blazed trail and head in that direction too.
So yeah, the US sped up. Doesn’t mean the UK isn’t trying to follow.
Fancy arresting people for committing a crime. What an insane state of affairs we live in, next thing you’ll tell me we’re not allowed to murder people
Oh, as not great as they are, they aren’t even close to being as bad as US.
You’re both selling them short. The UK is awful in ways that the Americans can only aspire to. They are each doing their own horrible things, just trading a bit of horrible culture now and then.
Which ones are those? I struggle to come up with something that US is doing better than the UK. The whole freedom of speech issue might be the one where at least it’s not that obvious, but I would argue UK is just more upfront about it, and even though more topics are explicitly forbidden in the UK, you wouldn’t be dissapeared from the streets by an unmarked van about it, so I would say it’s still better.
You clearly haven’t been paying attention. Both have a ton of issues. You could argue either is worse, but I don’t think anyone watching would say they aren’t on similar paths. The UK in particular has a lot of holdover issues from never fully reforming their government and only slowly transforming from monarchy to constitutional Republic, and still carrying all the baggage, like the house of lords for example.
Not arguing with that. I’m struggling to find something that is worse in the UK than in US right now, that’s it, I’m comparing the two countries right now. Whatever holdover issues UK has, US has it worse as far as I can see.
Well until quite recently, the UK was quite famously blazing the trail towards isolationism by shooting themselves in the foot with Brexit. The political gong show that followed was, I’m sure, absolutely humiliating. Surveillance culture in the UK is way, way ahead of almost any other Western democracy. I admit it’s harder to find things in the last few years that the UK is worse at, but examples still exist.
Whatever isolationism brexit highlighted, can’t be worse than whatever US is doing right now.
Cope harder. UK is in the fast lane to authoritarianism alongside the US.
Are you seeing it as some kind of race where you’re winning and I’m losing? What should I cope with?
Modern history, maybe not, but historically, the British Empire was the worst.
Historically no one was strictly speaking good.
I think he is saying they are following the same path, just a few steps behind. So if the US is running over a cliff, the UK will probably consider that a blazed trail and head in that direction too.
So yeah, the US sped up. Doesn’t mean the UK isn’t trying to follow.
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Fancy arresting people for committing a crime. What an insane state of affairs we live in, next thing you’ll tell me we’re not allowed to murder people
It’s sexual harassment you idiot
Yes, sexual harassment is a crime.
Tragic take.