I’ve just installed Fedora. Apart from some installer wonkiness (tbf in Windows) that would totally put off casual adopters it’s been fine and I don’t have to fiddle with anything.
I’ve been running cachyOS for the last few months…
i’ve heard a bunch of people talking about cachyos
i use endeavour os, and when i get my pc back (i moved and haven’t been able to build it yet) i’m planning on installing base arch
so, what are the upsides to cachyos?
I feel this way about hyprland…
Well you can just install that alongside your DE and try it out
I was thinking install KDE because of its theme modifications, still went with fedora because everyone works fine on my setup and I like the interface, it’s so different.
There’s a Fedora KDE flavour. I’ve been rocking it since 2020.
The funny thing for me is I swapped to fedora after my last attempt to use arch failed spectacularly.
I’ve found I’m at a point where I just want my device to work and work well
Just means your over 25
/me a 42 year old that uses Arch
I take that personally.
/me adjusts my knee high socks.
42 and wearing long socks like that? You need help bud’
Lol I’m close. Not quite there yet but looks like my linux habits have a head start
I have the same problem with NixOS and Debian.
Currently every family computer and server in the house runs Debian 12 as a base. But the urge to convert everything to Nix one day still tickles me, who knows someday…
I have Nix installs on two computers and have moved one of them twice to different hardware. Works, as it says, on the side of the tin.
BUUUUT… It’s a bear to get under control. It adds a lot complexity to things that should be simple, it makes some things nearly impossible, and then makes really hugely difficult things cake.
for example, one of a thousands things I want to do that’s easy
If I want to run parsec client. (there is no server available sadly)
nix search nixpkgs parsec
- legacyPackages.x86_64-linux.parsec-bin (150_97c) Remote streaming service client
nix-shell -p parsec-bin #ephemeral install, puts it in the store but only links it for this shell
done! Let’s start it!
parsec
parsec: command not found
parsec-bin
parsec-bin: command not found
parsec-client
parsec-client: command not found
google: nixos parsec
a million ways to run parsec but none from the package manager
google: nixos packages->https://search.nixos.org/packages
https://search.nixos.org/packages
parsec-bin
nothing about how to run it
but there are at least notes about how to install it permanently
so you plow through /nix/store looking for parsec, 4 minutes later
parsecd
they could have just included that in the docs, but nope…
Honestly, I really enjoy it, it feels like I’m in slackware back in the 90’s completely lost and confused learning everything new, and moving an install from box to box with a home directory sync and two files? chef’s kiss
Figuring out why a rebuild isn’t working is pain. Figuring out why an update won’t run, is pain.
ohh and you only get a month after a major release to install it before they stop putting in security updates for the previous version. And historically all the revisions before 25.05 were generally not just one and done. 24.11 ended up with me doing a wipe, fresh install, restoring my home folder and slowly easing parts of configuration.nix back in one rebuild at a time. but to be fair, they’ve been fighting wayland for a while now.
My desktops are Nix, my servers are Debian.
I tried three times. Failed 3 times.
And I started with Slackware in the 90s. I can handle jank.
But Nix really needs to take a clue from Arch on the documentation front…
Arch is for new users, experienced ones use Gentoo
Neither one of those will put hair on your chest, Saddle up NixOS, that’ll make you want to stab people in the eye… still fun tho
If Nix wasn’t binary (at least it was last time I checked.
Dunno, it never seemed too interesting to me.
Calm down there Satan.
echo 'os-distro/gentoo -satan' >> /etc/portage/package.use emerge -yvuDN @world
I moved to fedora after a decade on Arch.
Feels like home.
I don’t get distro hopping
There are better uses for your time
But hey, do as you want
See the world, they said…
What is grass and why should I touch it?
I think when you first get into Linux it’s a valid thing. you want to find the distro that you’re most comfortable with.
When I first started using linux I tried them all and eventually just settled on Arch because it felt right to me. That being said I don’t knock anyone who uses whatever. A good friend of mine online uses Slackware and he loves it, it works for him. There’s no “wrong” distro, it’s whatever works for you. you have to initially hop around though to find that though.
Also distro hopping is great when it comes to helping people, especially new linux users. I’ve made many friends within the community because for a solid year I just hopped all over the place and tried to learn it all.
I switched from Ubuntu to Debian when I got pissed about something.
But it’s not a hop, more like a leisurely walk 😀
Yeah at some point they are all the same to me it’s just the different package manager. Pacman, apt, yum or whatever they are calling it now a days.
Most use systemd.
I started using Arch flavors because when you have brand new hardware the latest kernel can be important. After the machine is a couple years old it doesn’t really matter.
Also Endeavouros is where it’s at (but don’t tell the vanilla Arch people, they won’t help me with my problems if they find out)
Agreed. After years of Ubuntu (who remember single digits?) Endeavour OS really knocked it out of the park on my new laptop. Everything smooth as butter, out of the box. Hibernation works on a bleeding edge device. No tearing. HDR works. VRR works. YouTube 4k 60fps no drops. Games run beautifully.
Okay, some BT issues, and the Wifi card is crap, and I don’t know how much of this is due to having an AMD graphics vs NVIDIA. But it’s sooo damn smooth. Games just work. KDE plasma >>>> gnome, and I say that as a gnome user since canonical killed unity.
Don’t get me started on the arch ecosystem and documentation. yay 😁
Just do what you’ve been wanting to do for a long time
Same thing happens to me but with Gentoo. It’s like rekindling a doomed to fail relationship over and over again.
You can have your cake and eat it too! Just install Arch in a VM to play around with without jeopardizing the stability of your main machine. Once you feel comfortable, you can make the switch. Or not. Having choices is great.
I feel a lot of people really forget that virtual machines exist.
sighs
Welp. Once more, with feeling.
./clears-throat.shUse whatever the fuck you want, you weirdo cultists.
spoiler
I use Kubuntu (
--minimal-installto avoidsnapfuckery). Truly, an “S-Tier” computing experience.If everything is the way you like it, you are winning. Keep on winning.
Dosent even have to be the way you like it. It only has to be the way that lets you get work done. If you can get work done on your thinking sand tool then it is a good tool.
Unpopular opinion: I love Ubuntu. No, I don’t use snaps at all. I have an Nvidia GPU and it’s literally the only OS working out of the box. Yes I tried Debian, I’m too busy to fiddle with drivers. No, I can’t get rid of the GPU, I depend on it for critical workflows. I love the minimalism of Gnome. Never liked KDE/Cinnamon honestly, they’re too busy for my tastes. For 15 years I’ve tried other distros and I’m always back on Ubuntu. I’ll ride the purple penguin to my grave.
Downvotes only please.
I’ve had 0 problems out of Debian since bookworm.
That said, I daily drive Nix and use Ubuntu LTS for servers because I’m too lazy to keep up with it otherwise.
Nobara works ootb too if you ever want to try a fedora spin. they even have a separate installer for nvidia users.
Joke’s on you, downvotes aren’t a thing on my instance, you’ll take my upvote and you’ll like it
It certainly seems like public opinion changed the tast ten years or so. As an ubuntu user, could you confirm or deny these claims I’ve seen? One is that firefox is a snap even if you try to install it with apt. Another is that they show ads to get paid ubuntu in the terminal output?
You got me there, firefox is the only snap I really use. Probably can be removed and replaced with apt version but honestly I don’t care much. I tend to clean reinstall frequently and I leave as much in the default setup as I can.
If it works, it works. But it does cause me to have another step to update everything, which is slightly annoying. And yes I don’t like Canonical’s insistence on snaps. I just try to avoid them really.
Ads, certainly never seen them.
If you really like Ubuntu, Linux mint Ubuntu version comes with the snap defaults removed.
I really liked Ubuntu back when the color scheme was more brown/orange, it seemed so friendly. The last ten years I’ve been on Debian though, but LMDE seems interesting.
LMDE is great, it’s what I recommend to all new Linux users. Lots of tiny things that remove friction, like not requiring Sudo for apt and showing stars when typing a password.
I with they would align LMDE with regular Mint in one aspect though, that there would be an out of the box btrfs layout that matches what Timeshift expects (iirc @ and @home?) which is different from how debian and therefore LMDE sets it up automagically. Maybe this has changed in recent years.
I can confirm them both. I’m considering moving to Debian because of this.
You can uninstall snap and use flatpak for those apps but it was a slap in the face when Firefox suddenly was replaced by a snap through apt
Oh that’s a bit underhand, especially when they must be well aware that snap can be unpopular.
I’ve always admired Ubuntu for making installing nVidia driver pretty painless.
I don’t know nVidia gpu you have, but I’m looking at immutable distros and I found Aurora, (based on Fedora Kinonite). Before I even downloaded the iso, they asked if I had an nVidia chipset and which one. I simply selected the driver for my older 1650 chipset and they automatically added the correct driver into the iso. I installed it and everything was working properly on first boot.
It was without a doubt the most painless nVidia driver install I’ve ever had on ANY OS.
I tried
I cannot downvote a GNOME lover
Trying to help with the downvote situation. Glad you decided on a distro that works for you and you’re not succumbing to the pressure.
The literal ArchWiki says you may not want to use Arch if you are happy with your current OS.
This is good, i hope somebody printed this and hand it over to Arch Linux cult
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