i dont think that wouldve affect magats votes one way or another, biden/trump was most invested in protecting thier donors who are on the list and other politicians, both US and foreign.
Considering the major infighting that’s been going on the past few weeks, I can’t help but disagree. They may have tried sticking together more than they are now for the sake of winning the election, but there might have been just enough friction to sway things if Trump was proven to have been on the list.
As far as protecting donors, they are going to be found out sooner or later anyway - what better way to bury it than by the distraction of it ensnaring a presidential candidate? By the time things got around to them, everybody would be sick of the subject anyway.
Doesn’t really matter. The assholes along their enablers and sycophants have done incredible damage to the country in just six months - it’s already barely recognizable as the great country it once was, and I’ve little hope it’ll survive another 3.5 years of this disaster. This whole Epstein thing has been the first time there’s been any hope of putting an end to the destruction before it’s too late - let me fantasize.
The age of consent was seen as nothing more than a technicality until relatively recently. I’d be shocked if the list didn’t include a large number of prominent democrats as well as the usual suspects from the republican party. Also most wealthy donors to both parties. The Epstein files are going to be full of rich people, because the rich think they’re untouchable and always embrace their worst impulses if given the opportunity. Political affiliation is irrelevant.
I’ve no doubt that’s the case (e.g. Clinton’s likely in there, for example), although I expect it’s a ratio much like then FBI director Wray during Trump’s first term testified regarding propensity towards politically-inspired violence: more than twice as likely to be conservatives doing it.
Even if they were 18+, I thought the thing was that they were trafficked/raped? Even if an “Epstein girl” was 21, that doesn’t necessarily absolve the people that had relations/raped/abused/etc. her. I haven’t kept up with the case so don’t know the details. Plus after the whole pizza gate and save the children fiasco it can be difficult to really sort out which parts are legitimate and which parts are conspiracy, so I haven’t dug much.
I’m only really responding to the “age of consent is a technicality” thing. Not that statutory rape shouldn’t be viewed as rape, but I don’t think these were scenarios of older people and minors having otherwise “consensual” sex.
Oh I am in no way excusing statutory rape. Dirty little fuckers need some jail time for what they did. All I’m saying is that rich people in the 80s and 90s where waaaaay more likely to get away with it because the people enforcing didn’t really care. So they were more likely to actually do it.
I dunno, was “the Island” part of the US? Cause if not, he would just tell his supporters it was fake news. They never cared about his character anyway.
I honestly haven’t wanted to know the details of the whole sordid affair enough to answer that question, although I can’t see how that would matter even if what they did was technically legal wherever it was.
No, most of his voters never cared about his character, but a small percentage were more moderate Republicans for whom such things actually do matter (they’re true believers in “the conservative way”) - possibly just enough to have swayed things.
Did you miss the “roll eyes” emoji? Regardless - Trump’s definitely the worse of the two in that department. Biden may have wanted to, but he seems to have (mostly) restrained himself. Trump? Not so much.
ETA: I have not seen a single trustworthy indication that Biden is in the Epstein files.- you’re revealing your cult-induced (or worse, deliberate choice of) blindness to the full set of facts and their place in the big picture.
I’ve seen less than a handful of vague indications that was a possibility, while there’s numerous credible accusations that have been made against Trump. Maybe get your head out of the cult of blind hatred, and start dealing with some facts?
Ahh… Who am I kidding? You’re obviously too committed (or should be - to a mental institution) to face the actual fact that you voted for the true scum of the earth.
I mean - just look at your chosen screen name. Says it all. And before you go there, “ape” is an old usage of the word as a verb meaning “to imitate” - so my name means I’m imitating your sanctimoniousness & feeding it right back at you. Enjoy!
Biden was definitely creepy with girls and women. This YouTube video from 7 years ago illustrates that quite clearly: https://youtu.be/KQ-YjGmpO4Q?t=2m07s
It’s a shame Biden was “too decent” 🙄 to get it done while he was there - the whole election could have gone a another (better) way.
i dont think that wouldve affect magats votes one way or another, biden/trump was most invested in protecting thier donors who are on the list and other politicians, both US and foreign.
Considering the major infighting that’s been going on the past few weeks, I can’t help but disagree. They may have tried sticking together more than they are now for the sake of winning the election, but there might have been just enough friction to sway things if Trump was proven to have been on the list.
As far as protecting donors, they are going to be found out sooner or later anyway - what better way to bury it than by the distraction of it ensnaring a presidential candidate? By the time things got around to them, everybody would be sick of the subject anyway.
Doesn’t really matter. The assholes along their enablers and sycophants have done incredible damage to the country in just six months - it’s already barely recognizable as the great country it once was, and I’ve little hope it’ll survive another 3.5 years of this disaster. This whole Epstein thing has been the first time there’s been any hope of putting an end to the destruction before it’s too late - let me fantasize.
The age of consent was seen as nothing more than a technicality until relatively recently. I’d be shocked if the list didn’t include a large number of prominent democrats as well as the usual suspects from the republican party. Also most wealthy donors to both parties. The Epstein files are going to be full of rich people, because the rich think they’re untouchable and always embrace their worst impulses if given the opportunity. Political affiliation is irrelevant.
I’ve no doubt that’s the case (e.g. Clinton’s likely in there, for example), although I expect it’s a ratio much like then FBI director Wray during Trump’s first term testified regarding propensity towards politically-inspired violence: more than twice as likely to be conservatives doing it.
And there’s the reason biden didn’t release them. Everyone saw what the party does to people who run afoul of the clinton machine.
Even if they were 18+, I thought the thing was that they were trafficked/raped? Even if an “Epstein girl” was 21, that doesn’t necessarily absolve the people that had relations/raped/abused/etc. her. I haven’t kept up with the case so don’t know the details. Plus after the whole pizza gate and save the children fiasco it can be difficult to really sort out which parts are legitimate and which parts are conspiracy, so I haven’t dug much.
I’m only really responding to the “age of consent is a technicality” thing. Not that statutory rape shouldn’t be viewed as rape, but I don’t think these were scenarios of older people and minors having otherwise “consensual” sex.
Oh I am in no way excusing statutory rape. Dirty little fuckers need some jail time for what they did. All I’m saying is that rich people in the 80s and 90s where waaaaay more likely to get away with it because the people enforcing didn’t really care. So they were more likely to actually do it.
I dunno, was “the Island” part of the US? Cause if not, he would just tell his supporters it was fake news. They never cared about his character anyway.
No, they absolutely care about his character. They love that he’s an unapologetic monster.
If Trump was a decent, upstanding human, they’d hate him.
I honestly haven’t wanted to know the details of the whole sordid affair enough to answer that question, although I can’t see how that would matter even if what they did was technically legal wherever it was.
No, most of his voters never cared about his character, but a small percentage were more moderate Republicans for whom such things actually do matter (they’re true believers in “the conservative way”) - possibly just enough to have swayed things.
Well, short of trump being in jail, I don’t think exposing this would have cost him the election.
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Then let’s see them already.
Did you miss the “roll eyes” emoji? Regardless - Trump’s definitely the worse of the two in that department. Biden may have wanted to, but he seems to have (mostly) restrained himself. Trump? Not so much.
ETA: I have not seen a single trustworthy indication that Biden is in the Epstein files.- you’re revealing your cult-induced (or worse, deliberate choice of) blindness to the full set of facts and their place in the big picture.
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I’ve seen less than a handful of vague indications that was a possibility, while there’s numerous credible accusations that have been made against Trump. Maybe get your head out of the cult of blind hatred, and start dealing with some facts?
Ahh… Who am I kidding? You’re obviously too committed (or should be - to a mental institution) to face the actual fact that you voted for the true scum of the earth.
I mean - just look at your chosen screen name. Says it all. And before you go there, “ape” is an old usage of the word as a verb meaning “to imitate” - so my name means I’m imitating your sanctimoniousness & feeding it right back at you. Enjoy!
That’s a pics or it didn’t happen statement buddy.
Also can you tell us which hole you snuck into so we can patch that up?
Biden was definitely creepy with girls and women. This YouTube video from 7 years ago illustrates that quite clearly: https://youtu.be/KQ-YjGmpO4Q?t=2m07s
Paul Joseph Watson is a scumbag culture war propagandists.
They removed my comment for apparently being misinformation, yet there you just posted the video. Fuck the administrator for pedo apologist.