• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The problem is that fascists know that normal people are empathetic in this way, and they use it against us. It makes it nearly impossible to stop them (without violence).

    At some point you’re just bowing down to murderous psychopaths who literally want you dead.

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      Acknowledging and understanding they are human DOES NOT mean cowing down or bowing down to them. It means understanding that they’re human.

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        Not explicitly. But, in my experience, that is usually the implication when people say that.

        These are Nazis. If you aren’t fighting them, then you’re allowing them to spread their hate.

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      So we should just give up and become them, is what you’re saying. That works well for two minutes and then you replace the problem with a new one. Russia is a good example of that, lol.

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        So we should just give up and become them, is what you’re saying.

        If that was your takeaway, either you need to re-read my comment, or I do because that’s not at all what I meant to say.

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          You were essentially arguing that we should not show empathy to people like the guy who died because they wouldn’t show empathy toward us. That is the path to fascism.

          Violence does not defeat fascism. Empathy does. Violence is effective at toppling dictators, but if that is all you do, then a new dictator will just take his place. Empathy is what stops the chain of Violence everytime. That is when strong men and women say no to Violence and yes to a better system that treats everybody with human dignity and rights. Even those whom we don’t emotionally feel deserve it. A criminal who has committed a terrible crime should be locked up and not be around the public, but while he or she is in prison, he or she must still be treated as a human because they are one. If we start making exceptions we lose our humanity and take away theirs. Then we have death penalties which sometimes results in wrong convictions and wrongful executions. Emotionally, I can feel that the death penalty is justice, but that is just emotions. In reality, it is one step toward a aystem that stops seeing people as people and that shit trickles down.

          Also, having empathy for someone doesn’t mean you have sympathy for them. Acknowledging that someone is a human doesn’t mean you bow down to their world view.