Oh yeah, I agree. I blocked hexbear, but not .ml yet. I’m still willing to argue with that group. It’s just saying “lemmy” has a Nazi problem is like saying email has a Nazi problem.
There’s some nazi insurances like explodingheads or whatever, but everyone has and continues to defederate from them instantly so it’s not much of a problem for users.
It’s primarily the Tankie Triad; That’s .ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad.ml. To a lesser extent, some people also include lemm.ee too. The reason tankies are so widespread on non-communist posts is because .ml is the Lemmy dev’s home instance. So if you want to see updates for lemmy’s development, you need to federate with .ml. Which means even non-tankie instances are inevitably exposed to all of the tankieposting.
Communism has noble goals, even if the tankies advocate self-defeating ways of achieving these goals. I’m not aware of any noble goals behind Nazism or any kind of fascism. That, to me, puts even the most infuriating tankie above any Nazi.
Lemmy’s federated structure makes it easy to block the instances which don’t moderate the nazis or tankies or anything else away to your satisfaction, while Substack is a centralized platform which has chosen to not only allow, but actively encourage and reward its nazis.
So, any such problem on Lemmy is “better” because we can all (as individual users, and/or collectively as instances) deal with it as we like instead of bowing to Substack’s decision to be a nazi bar for all its users.
How does it compare to lemmy?
Lemmy has a tankie problem, but I rather deal with tankies over nazis.
It’s also federated. Which instance has a tankie problem? Which instance has a Nazi problem?
Lemmy.ml and hexbear have tankie problems. Thankfully it’s easy to block instances. I’m not aware of any instance that got Nazi problems.
There are plenty of Nazi instances, but most non-Nazi instances share a common blocklist and don’t federate with them.
Oh yeah, I agree. I blocked hexbear, but not .ml yet. I’m still willing to argue with that group. It’s just saying “lemmy” has a Nazi problem is like saying email has a Nazi problem.
There’s some nazi insurances like explodingheads or whatever, but everyone has and continues to defederate from them instantly so it’s not much of a problem for users.
There used to be some extreme right wing instance but it instantly got defederated by everyone
It’s primarily the Tankie Triad; That’s .ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad.ml. To a lesser extent, some people also include lemm.ee too. The reason tankies are so widespread on non-communist posts is because .ml is the Lemmy dev’s home instance. So if you want to see updates for lemmy’s development, you need to federate with .ml. Which means even non-tankie instances are inevitably exposed to all of the tankieposting.
Tankies call me a Zionist because I’m Jewish but Nazis pose an existential threat to me. I’ll take dumbass tankies.
Some people struggle to make the split between religious people and religious extremists.
Not all Muslims are part of ISIS, not all Jews are Zionists. I don’t know what’s so difficult.
How are they better? To me both are like cancer, perhaps brain vs heart tumor, pretty much just as bad.
Communism has noble goals, even if the tankies advocate self-defeating ways of achieving these goals. I’m not aware of any noble goals behind Nazism or any kind of fascism. That, to me, puts even the most infuriating tankie above any Nazi.
One is definitely racist.
Unlike tankies, Nazis actually do things in real life, beyond socializing in their niche internet forums
Good point!
Lemmy’s federated structure makes it easy to block the instances which don’t moderate the nazis or tankies or anything else away to your satisfaction, while Substack is a centralized platform which has chosen to not only allow, but actively encourage and reward its nazis.
So, any such problem on Lemmy is “better” because we can all (as individual users, and/or collectively as instances) deal with it as we like instead of bowing to Substack’s decision to be a nazi bar for all its users.
I’ve never seen open support for Nazis being left up after being reported on instances that haven’t been defederated, so it’s better without question.
Lemmy is more like Reddit than Substack. Ghost would be the Substack equivalent.
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