Dodged a bullet there

Hurhurhur

Work at a major brokerage firm as a Sr Specialist in Tech Support, I basically help reps on the phones solve issues, and over the past year getting to do devops work on our internal site for our dept.

Not going to college

We live near a small lake and the amount of milipedes and pill bugs that come in and just die is crazy. Cleaned up hundreds of bodies.

I do and please name a single human written program that doesn’t have a fuck up edge case that isn’t literally just hello world.

Neither humans nor AI generally write flawless code

I’m definitely still a noob but I’ve done hundreds of hours of debugging on code in the past few months, and my job for the past 8 years is basically to troubleshoot issues, though the past year I got to start doing devops/code work on the side.

Its fine though, I get why you guys are scared.

“You’ll have no idea” until it doesn’t work lmfao

Y’all are delusional

You can add instructions to not comment, you can also have it explain what it does at every step, not everyone just doesn’t care about learning. It can be a very effective teaching tool if you use it that way. 🤷

The only one actually relevant to “cognitive decline” is the second, do we know what the math questions actually were?

Also I wasn’t making an anology, I’m seriously asking if we’d see the same drop-off, as I think the root of the problem is moreso that humans will generally choose to use less effort rather then more, so any tool that reduces effort might see the same amount of drop off in end result when taken away.

Going with analogies though, people having cars mean less people learning about/using horses/carriages/bikes and as cars are increasingly more complex and less repairable, less people put in the effort to learn how to fix them if something goes wrong.

Ultimately though I have to wonder what does that really matter in the long term? Did people stop doing/understanding math once calculators became common?

One of the points the paper makes is people who used it to help rather then solve the problem for them performed better once it was taken away, which adheres with my own observations on how people use certain tools vs seek to understand how those tool work and deeper their understanding. However again, is it really a problem that a majority of Americans (for example) don’t know how to change the oil on their car? Does that actually indicate they’re less intelligent or unable to rationalize/logically process information? Or do they generally put the effort that would be put into learning how their car works into other efforts.

Unfortunately I think many are simply too burned out with day to day life to care about much learning at all, which is a much larger issue IMO.

Though I will say I do think AI/LLMs will only reinforce that behavior, I’m not sure if that’ll be all bad or really all that different then the existing status quo prior to their spread.

Edit: We could talk about the economic impact it will have, but the root cause is the same as all the other wealth inequality, and I can easily forsee how LLMs could be much more equitable rather then used as vehicles for enrichment.

On the math test, I’d be curious if a calculator was provided instead then taken away half-way through. Would we see the same drop off?

I think it’s because it’s much more visible in boomers as they’re more likely to be gambling in casinos whereas I’d bet (ha) the majority of betting is online these days.

Go into any casino and see what the age distribution is, in my experience the majority are boomers.

That’s the vista start button lul

You’d almost certainly know a stonetoss comic, they were pretty common over the last decade or so.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/StoneToss

Sorry for making you angry!

Yeah, it’s hard, it’s not like you’re wrong that driving while baked is more dangerous then sober, but to your point I think the way our infrastructure is built where pedestrians are an afterthought if thought about at all, definitely contributes to make it even more dangerous.

I wish we had more walkable/bike-friendly locations, it’s just not super likely given how large the US is

That’s honestly a very odd reaction, for what it’s worth I meant it lightheartedly.

Of course I think pedestrians and cyclists also deserve safety.

I would like to point out however that a majority of incidents are drunk drivers who do not already have a device like that in their car, so it’s a tad bit absurd to indicate your hard line for legalization is that when it would only apply after the fact anyway.

Missing the point a bit, we shouldn’t base legalization around if people are going to drive their cars on a substance.

You can do it locally now pretty easily depending on your use ass and hardware, huggingface has all the models you’d need and use something like llama-swap

Imagine being so car brained that you base personal freedom around it