I guess that would beg the question, how much is it worth to you pay extra to not have additional spyware in your home? Or as others have said in this thread, there is at least one brand of television that still sells dumb tvs.

Simple solution I use: Fuck television sets, get a computer monitor and basic speakers instead. A display should do only one thing and do it well.

Yeah, I’m sorry but none of this seems to add up. I read the book you linked, the entire thing, and I didn’t really learn anything new from it. In my own searches I’ve found a number of competing image generation systems, most of them just use Stable Diffusion - including Horde, which makes sense as it is open-source and readily available. But others have their own solutions, and some even use their own datasets. I’ve also done other searches and found a variety of instructions on how people can put together their own datasets. Between all of the options, it seems pretty clear to me that even now it is entirely possible for people to use these AI tools without ever needing to come into any contact with “stolen” (ie., copyright infringed - it’s not theft) artwork.

But I’m not going to link to any of these things because I don’t want to endorse or promote anything without taking sufficient time to be really sure that they are in fact ethical, which honestly I’m probably not going to do at least for the time being, since I have no need to use any of these anyway. But yeah, ethical ai art is entirely possible, no copyright ever needs to be infringed, and this is something anyone can do today if they’re inclined to make the searches and assemble free source images themselves.

When you say, “However what you’re hypothesizing cannot exist, due to the nature of a diffusion model. The source that the images are generated from, all of that was stolen in 2021. It was illegally scraped.”, are you referring to Laion-5B?

Pinta has become my favorite image editing tool. Every other one I feel like I have to fight with in order to do anything (looking at you Gimp), but Pinta is so easy and intuitive it’s a joy to use.

Right, that was always my understanding too, but I do know that there are also anti-circumvention laws that play a more direct role in the jailbreaking scene. I’m just not up-to-date on what’s going on with that these days.

No offense taken. It is still a strawman though, because regardless of the realness of what I’m talking about, they’re still referring to something different and then attacking that as if it is the thing I’m talking about.

I haven’t looked into it too much, because I don’t bother to use these things myself. But if I remember, there are some systems that are open-source, can be run locally, and then a person could train those systems on only public domain and freely licensed works. That is the kind I’m talking about, so bringing up the systems I’m not talking about is just a strawman.

No, it’s not. Why are you like this?

None of the hypothetical methods I described would do that.

Also wanna add that in theory I’m not against AI art generation, only the way it’s usually implemented. All creativity is derivative, and as long as the user is remixing free and public domain content, I think the gained accessibility for far more people to bring their expressions to life where they otherwise would not have been able to, is worth far more than the perceived threats felt by a stagnant copy monopolist industry.

But the key thing here is proper implementation. It’s like every time we get a new toy, we forget all over again that software freedom is a moral imperative in all forms of software.

To be fair, sourcing vegan-friendly art supplies is often significantly more frustrating than finding vegan food. But as others have said, doing - do I call it ‘traditional digital’ art? - is going to have a much smaller environmental impact than AI generation systems that are dependent on servers. A used Thinkpad x230 > Midjourney?

Okay, I see. Weird, I don’t remember that being in the article when I read it. Yeah, that was just dumb then. People who sell these things need to stop preloading them.

But now I need to look more into this, is there precedent for Nintendo going after people who sell Jailbroken devices without copyrighted content on them? I think if I ever tried to make a living like this, I would just avoid Nintendo all together. Well, anything 3DS or newer anyway. Those GBA mods these days are 🔥

I didn’t see anything in the article indicating whether or not the person sold them with games pre-loaded. If all he did was sell jailbroken Switches, that’s not a victory. That’s a loss of our rights to use and change our own hardware.

I mean yeah, I just said above that someone almost killed me. They were probably a human driver. But that’s a “might happen, never know.” If self driving cars are rear-ending people, that’s an inherent artifact of it’s programming, even though it’s not intentionally programmed to do that.

So it’s like, things were already bad. I already do not feel safe doing any biking anymore. But as self driving cars become more prevalent, that threat upgrades to a kind of defacto, “Oh, these vast stretches of land are places where only cars and trucks are allowed. Everything else is roadkill waiting to happen.”

I imagine bicyclists must be æffected as well if they’re on the road (as we should be, technically). As somebody who has already been literally inches away from being rear-ended, this makes me never want to bike in the US again.

Time to go to Netherlands.

Yup, that’s the part that drives me most crazy.

Maybe? All I know is the other day I used my Debian pc (gnome) to format a usb drive as fat, thinking that’d be the most compatible and hassle free fs for storing and transferring files. Then I got an error that I couldn’t store Champions of Norrath on it because it couldn’t store files over 4 gigs. So for now I just am using ext4.

I wish we could just get one good open, unified filesystem that all OS’s support. It sucks that if I want a usb drive to function on both Android and Linux, I have to format it to FAT. That pos fs can’t even store files over 4 gigs.

I normally prefer copyleft licenses, but this is one case something more permissive seems appropriate.