It’s not for everyone, but I think it’s reasonable to pay for a platform that pays its content creators fairly. I spend a lot of things watching videos, and even though my income is limited, some kind of payment for the service makes sense.
I don’t mind blocking ads on YouTube because they used unfair practices (endless resources from Google) to destroy the competition and become the only video provider. They put us in a corner and deserve to be put in one too.
I think I should be more clear: I agree that it is reasonable to pay a platform that is fair.
The comparison to youtube is where it gets lost for me:
The issue is that, in general, the value of watching what is typically on youtube is about the level of free. If it cost me money, I could do without, it just isn’t that important. I will find better ways to spend my time. So with Nebula, you have a platform that is more like just another streaming service, albeit a good one for independent creators. But that leaves me thinking what do they have that I would bother watching? Which is a pretty high bar (I didnt even own a tv for nearly 20 years). It seems less like youtube and more like HBO for independents on paper, and without free access how would I know the difference?
The main value of Nebula is no ads. I have YouTube on Firefox with uBlock Origin, so no ads either, but shitty performance due to YouTube fighting the AdBlocker. But more importantly I don’t think the ability to watch YouTube with no ads is a given, so I want to have a viable alternative.
And secondly, I want to support the creators and a platform that sees me as a customer, not as a data-cow to be milked.
I’m sure Nebula will eventually have a free tier, but that can incur high costs and degrade the experience for paying users. They’ll do it when they feel comfortable.
That would be an improvement, how would I know I want anything in a store I have to pay before I even consume anything?
I have several subscriptions ditectly to people making things I like.
On the otherhand, I miss when people made things because they liked to. I still do that. I run several sites that has no ads, no charge, because I like the communities I am sharing with.
Then again, it’s not my job so I am afforded that luxury I guess.
It also might be worth saying that watching people do things is not my favorite thing. I would rather actually do things.
most public libraries and librarians spend a great deal of their time applying for grants, asking for donations, and parsing out the meager state and federal funds they receive. You can tell that a lot goes on in a public library besides what patrons see!
Did you know that staff salaries, books, other library materials, office supplies, and utilities are funded primarily by city and county taxes? (link)
Taking this chance to say support your local libraries! Even just being a patron will show that it’s a necessary resource that needs to continue. My partner and I just were talking about the library today and how we both used to go at least once a week back in the day but we’ve fallen off in the past decade.
Nebula’s getting better and I spend more time there now than on YouTube. Happy that YouTube is working hard to encourage this transition.
I wish the videos were longer than 8 min on nebula.
There’s a ton of content that’s much longer. There’s no 8-minute limitation.
Philosophy tube and jet lagged are both longer than 8 minutes, I think nilered is on there as well and is definitely longer than 8 minutes.
I’ll never go there. Paid is a no way situation.
It’s not for everyone, but I think it’s reasonable to pay for a platform that pays its content creators fairly. I spend a lot of things watching videos, and even though my income is limited, some kind of payment for the service makes sense.
I don’t mind blocking ads on YouTube because they used unfair practices (endless resources from Google) to destroy the competition and become the only video provider. They put us in a corner and deserve to be put in one too.
I think I should be more clear: I agree that it is reasonable to pay a platform that is fair.
The comparison to youtube is where it gets lost for me:
The issue is that, in general, the value of watching what is typically on youtube is about the level of free. If it cost me money, I could do without, it just isn’t that important. I will find better ways to spend my time. So with Nebula, you have a platform that is more like just another streaming service, albeit a good one for independent creators. But that leaves me thinking what do they have that I would bother watching? Which is a pretty high bar (I didnt even own a tv for nearly 20 years). It seems less like youtube and more like HBO for independents on paper, and without free access how would I know the difference?
I mean that’s fair : value is relative.
The main value of Nebula is no ads. I have YouTube on Firefox with uBlock Origin, so no ads either, but shitty performance due to YouTube fighting the AdBlocker. But more importantly I don’t think the ability to watch YouTube with no ads is a given, so I want to have a viable alternative.
And secondly, I want to support the creators and a platform that sees me as a customer, not as a data-cow to be milked.
I’m sure Nebula will eventually have a free tier, but that can incur high costs and degrade the experience for paying users. They’ll do it when they feel comfortable.
“I want endless curated content for FREE! NO ADS. NO PAY. ONLY CONTENT.”
This guy, probably.
Probably also thinks the minimum wage is theft.
Why be an asshole? Yes I like free I also make things for free. Not everything has to cost.
For ongoing series I like I support directly, like anyone else. Not the platform.
But to charge up front for who knows what? Nope.
You clearly have absolutely no idea what infrastructure costs to run.
Lol, OK.
Thanks for proving my point.
Sure anytime.
so you’d pay if there was a free trial?
That would be an improvement, how would I know I want anything in a store I have to pay before I even consume anything?
I have several subscriptions ditectly to people making things I like.
On the otherhand, I miss when people made things because they liked to. I still do that. I run several sites that has no ads, no charge, because I like the communities I am sharing with.
Then again, it’s not my job so I am afforded that luxury I guess.
It also might be worth saying that watching people do things is not my favorite thing. I would rather actually do things.
Uh, it’s called a “library”.
Libraries are paid for with taxes.
you think libraries are free?
Taking this chance to say support your local libraries! Even just being a patron will show that it’s a necessary resource that needs to continue. My partner and I just were talking about the library today and how we both used to go at least once a week back in the day but we’ve fallen off in the past decade.
So you prefer ad supported content?
Nope.