• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com
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    12 hours ago

    Yes, industrialisation is what lifts people from poverty, that’s exactly why the West has prevented the almost entirety of Africa, South America and Southeast Asia from industrializing, and the greatest industrial developments in the previous century (other than US-sponsored military bases like South Korea or Japan) have happened in, you guessed it, communist countries, whether we refer to the heavy industrialisation of USSR under state-planned economy or the industrialisation of China through Dengism and the attraction of international capital investment. Why didn’t Peru industrialise too? Why didn’t Philippines? Why didn’t Zambia? You’re talking of industrialisation of the West and imperialism as two isolated phenomena, when they’re very much not.

    Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe

    You mean when the Soviets lost 27 million people in order to save Europe from Nazism? We can talk about that, yes

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      1 hour ago

      I mean yeah capitalism and imperialism go hand in hand.

      But you’re willfully ignoring when “communist” countries do the same. Do you think the soviet oppression of eastern Europe is fundamentally different than the European oppression of Africa

      And no, I’m talking about ww2, I’m talk about Holodomor and the Great Chinese Famine. I’m sure you’ll try and find excuses for them like a capitalist would for the bengal or Irish famines.