Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.

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    US President Biden says he urged Israeli Premier Netanyahu to avoid carpet-bombing Gaza

    “You can’t be carpet-bombing these communities,” Biden told Netanyahu during a conversation shortly after the Gaza war started in October 2023, according to the outgoing president.

    In an interview with MSNBC late Thursday, Biden said that Netanyahu countered that during World War II, the US carpet-bombed Berlin and dropped a nuclear weapon.

    Big shoutout to the uncommitted movement and couch sitters for not rewarding genocide. You could learn a thing or two from them if you do not want Trump again

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      That is not evidence of your original claim.

      Nor is it a refutation to my counter-points.

      I’m sure the Gazan residents are oh so grateful for this Pyrrhic grandstanding as the blueprints of turning the strip into a Riviera are being written up.

      Meanwhile such couch-sitters certainly enabled the genocide of many by ignoring Trump’s association with another war criminal, Putin and his undermining of Ukrainian aid. And again, can’t forget the blood on their hands for being culpable in choosing the one blocking climate change action, right? I guess you’re also not for women’s rights on abortion or LGBTQ+ rights?

      (also LOL for using a Turkish state-run media far-right media outlet. Slow clap.)

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          Fine, if you really insist on me spelling it out:

          Biden reporting himself that Bibi said that we did it too is neither Biden’s condoning nor is it Bibi’s admission to him that he would carpet bomb with the weapons allocated.

          Biden directly sent the bombs he knew were going to be used to bomb those hospitals to Israel

          UNSUBSTANTIATED. There is no mention whatsoever in the provided source that Biden “Knew” Israel was going to bomb “hospitals” with the very bombs he provided.

          and then lied that those bombs were not being used to bomb hospitals.

          UNSUBSTANTIATED. There is no evidence within this source that Biden “lied” — Read: intended to deceive or mislead.

          Perhaps Biden thought he had more leverage; perhaps he wrongly trusted Bibi’s word. Moreover it does not change the aforementioned counterpoints raised that continue to go conveniently ignored that the situation was far more nuanced in reality (after all, it is also true that Israeli civilians were obviously under threat as well, and disarming Israel would jeopardize their safety in kind —either by legitimate risk, or by obvious false flag utilized by Bibi to garner more geopolitical support against Democrats).

          Either way, the ironic part is that this source proves that the Biden administration expressed more concern over civilian life than the Trump administration ever did.

          Also as I had mentioned and something you also conveniently ignored: Gaza is not the only global or domestic crisis. To not engage in any sort of logically ethical consideration pertaining to LGBTQ+ rights, climate change, Taiwan sovereignty, Ukrainian sovereignty (and their own genocide being perpetrated by Russia) is flatly irresponsible if not morally reprehensible. Funny that no uncommitted couch-sitter ever raises concerns over these things for which the Democratic candidates were obviously better on.

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          I’m aware of the words (which, by the way still do not lend evidence to your aforementioned claim); I’m just curious why one wouldn’t cite the primary source that is MSNBC and instead goes with a far-right extremist state-run outlet. Slow clap, indeed.

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            I pasted the term into the search bar and this was the top article which came up.

            Also it does. Biden literally admits he knows that Israel is carpet bombing civilians with his weapons and keeps sending them anyways.

            The argument is especially stupid because almost all of Gaza was completely destroyed and bombed to rubble under Joe Biden. When Trump took office, Gaza already looked like this. Israel is basically bombing piles of rubble over and over again now.

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              Fine, if you really insist on me spelling it out:

              Biden reporting himself that Bibi said that we did it too is neither Biden’s condoning nor is it Bibi’s admission to him that he would carpet bomb with the weapons allocated.

              Biden directly sent the bombs he knew were going to be used to bomb those hospitals to Israel

              UNSUBSTANTIATED. There is no mention whatsoever in the provided source that Biden “Knew” Israel was going to bomb “hospitals” with the very bombs he provided.

              and then lied that those bombs were not being used to bomb hospitals.

              UNSUBSTANTIATED. There is no evidence within this source that Biden “lied” — Read: intended to deceive or mislead.

              Perhaps Biden thought he had more leverage; perhaps he wrongly trusted Bibi’s word. Moreover it does not change the aforementioned counterpoints raised that continue to go conveniently ignored by you that the situation was far more nuanced in reality (after all, it is also true that Israeli civilians were obviously under threat as well, and disarming Israel would jeopardize their safety in kind).

              Either way, the ironic part is that this source proves that the Biden administration expressed more concern over civilian life than the Trump administration ever did. So much for MuH BoTh SiDeS.