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Kurtagag@lemmy.ca to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 27 days ago

What’s your ultimate unpopular opinion?

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Kurtagag@lemmy.ca to Asklemmy@lemmy.mlEnglish · 27 days ago
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    The wage gap is mostly down to the what careers people choose and how hard they push in those careers.

    Women for the most part, earn less then men for the same reason gay men earn more than straight men.

    (side note: I’m not denying that there is sexism and discrimination in the workplace, it’s sadly common and should be stopped, I’m saying that’s not the cause of the wage gap)

    Edit: I thought this would get down voted, as actual unpopular opinions usually do.

    If you think I’m wrong, explain the Gay wage gap https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_wage_gap

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      The gap exists between identical positions – that’s like the whole thing

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        https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/

        Idk if this is a good source, but if it is then how can you really point to generally .99 to every 1.00 as a really significant issue? If you want to say that women aren’t getting the same opportunities for better job positions then sure that’s probably generally true. However I don’t think you can legitimately say that the adjusted/controlled wage gap is that bad. At least there are many valid arguments for why the unadjusted/uncontrolled wage gap is bad.

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          I’m mistaken on that point then, though there is still a measurable gap. There is a large disparity in the “unadjusted” numbers which the article you sent notes is just as important as the adjusted one. It represents a power disparity. Ty for the correction

          Here’s another reliable source:
          https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

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        That’s mostly because men, on average, negotiate for higher wages; if the women in such positions asked for higher wages, the disparity would be much lower.

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          This isn’t true as I was mistaken. The gap apparently is 1 cent when adjusting for positions. I think this is an overly simplistic view which unduly shifts the blame to women, when in fact society and our economic systems push women towards particular jobs (or motherhood) and compensates far less.

          Hers a source I linked elsewhere:

          https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/

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        Sure, but I feel that’s for the same reason gay men earn more than straight men.

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      Wow, you really hit the spot right here!

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        Lol yes, I was literally asked for an unpopular opinion, gave one and now I’m being down voted…

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      Do you think that’s universal or only applied to the USA? And how does the article support your opinion?

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      @AnonomousWolf
      > gay men earn more than straight men

      Who told you that?

      @Kurtagag

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_wage_gap

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          Edit: You know what, nevermind. I don’t think I actually want to debate this today. It’s been an alright day so far and I don’t want to fuck it up like I’m sure this argument would.

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            No worries take it easy, I’m just a stranger on the Internet. I hope you have a good relaxing day

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    • Donald Musk@lemmy.today
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      What is the reason for the gay wage gap tho? The wikipedia gave the stats but not the reason.

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      ya got my upvote! It’s something I’ve witnessed for most of my working life.

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