• AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Kamala might actually make some progress on the symptoms of capitalism, but she’ll never stop the root cause. Best case scenario is things are less bad for 4 or 8 years than they could be.

    We need a socialist president, not a liberal.

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      No probably not. But let’s at Bernie was president.

      He would work in the confides of capitalism but there is another win:

      A progress president would open the conversation to move further towards socialism.

      Americans first need to stop fearing socialism, and imo Kamala might help a little with that. I’m not holding my breath though

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        4 months ago

        Exactly my point. We might have “conversations” for a few years, then we’ll go right back towards moving to the right. Just like what happened with Obama. Just like what happened with Clinton.

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          Nobody said it would be easy, it’s taken the right wing almost 7 decades to forge their alliance with Christian fundamentalists. I don’t expect The Left to be able to enact massive change in any less time if they’re even able to mobilize.

          Even a best case scenario of 8 years of Harris and then 8 years of Walz could only be the beginning of unfucking what The Heritage Foundation and Reaganomics and trickle-down lies have done over the last half century.

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      Baby steps. If things are less bad for 4 or 8 years, progressive policies become more palatable for people. This gets you closer to your ideal state.

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          The way you change things is to start at the bottom. If it were even possible to get a socialist president, they’re be incredibly unpopular, and they’d have a very hard time working with Congress. We need to be playing the long game like conservatives did, building up from local office like school boards.

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            So the people of the UK had to have universal healthcare rammed down their throats. I don’t remember the stats but it was extremely unpopular. Turns out they loved it. Now if someone campaigned on privatizing the NHS they’d be laughed out of the room.