A judge ordered Planned Parenthood to hand records of transgender care over to Andrew Bailey.

A St. Louis judge has ruled that Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is entitled to Planned Parenthood’s transgender care records, ordering the nonprofit to turn over some of its most sensitive files to the man who has built his unelected political career on restricting health care access for trans people.

In his Thursday decision, Circuit Judge Michael Stelzer wrote that Bailey can collect documents under Missouri’s consumer protection statute that aren’t protected under federal mandate, namely the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, better known as HIPAA.

“It is clear from the statute that the Defendant has the broad investigative powers when the consumer is in possible need of protection and there is no dispute in this matter,” wrote Stelzer. “Therefore, the Defendant is entitled to some of the requested documents within his [Civil Investigative Demand].”

Bailey, who last year attempted to implement a ban on gender-affirming care for people of all ages, was quick to celebrate the decision, calling it a “big day” for the state.

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    some people want hormones and puberty blockers to be the only way in reducing dysphoria and a big part of that wants surgery to be the only way. calling everybody bigots and fascists because you disagree with someone only shows how weak your arguments are.

    What do you propose to reduce dysphoria other than gender affirming care? Y’all talk a big game but you have no alternatives that aren’t abjectly cruel whilst being entirely ineffective.

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      gender affirming care is the exact same thing. i do no maybe mental problems should be treated firs and maybe go too a mental health professional instead of doing body altering drugs and surgeries. that would be my radical alternative you know more radical than taking body altering drugs and surgeries. maybe im just extremist.

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        Trans people… Get mental healthcare? Not sure what you’re suggesting here. Are you aware that hormones and surgery, for those who desire them, are the most effective treatment available for trans people? Are you aware that basically no other surgery has a regret rate as low as trans surgeries do?

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          for those who desire them oh really what mental healthcare did they get? i don’t think that’s how it works for hormones and surgery’s. i get it because i want to get it like your taking a fucking mint no serious Medical procedure works like that. i think you live in a fantasy world and you seem very invested. because no rationale person would seriously say this.

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            You really are talking out of your ass. Have you ever actually looked into how trans care works? Because mental healthcare is very much a part of it.

            Maybe we live in fantasy world, but you definitely live in propaganda world.

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              fantasy world is still worse its not real. propaganda world at least you can try and change.i guess you have your own better sounding definition of trans care good for you but its just yours and its a small one because you have not said anything about the rest.

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            So, you don’t know what you’re talking about, obviously, as one of the requirements for bottom surgery is three letters of recommendation, one of which has to be from a therapist working with the prospective surgery recipient for at least a year. Kind of seems like you are very invested in a fantasy world, rather than learning the shape of reality.

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              you did say hormones and surgery, for those who desire them. you did not say anything about requirements .you where only talking about how awesome these treatments are was that shaping your own reality. requirements seems like something you should start with for someone who knows so much.

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                Point is, you should maybe do some research into what you’re talking about before having an opinion. I happen to know what the process involves for someone going through it, and what the outcomes are like for various alternatives. Transitioning is what helps trans people who want to transition. Nothing else is as effective, and we have decades of data from clinical practice to support that.

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                  ah yes educate yourself because your opinion is not valid. even here you are just talking about your own feelings. yes very cherry Pict studies that obviously support everything you say and if it does not there done by bigots and they should not be used. Transitioning is what helps trans people who want to transition i really love this circular argument its Presuppositional trans argument

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                    Trans people who don’t want to transition… Shouldn’t be forced to transition? I don’t understand your stance here.

                    And yes, filling a survey from a site for parents denying that their kid could possibly be trans, is a lousy place to get a fair dataset on trans people. Is there a reason you think that the majority of studies are biased, and the majority of practitioners in the field are pro affirming care?

                    Your beliefs fail to comport with reality. If I had beliefs like that, I would want to update them to better do so. Can you provide evidence that my belief that “medical care for trans people who want it is the best route” is incorrect?

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        You’re being evasive, specifically what treatments are you talking about? Everything from conversion therapy to electric-shock treatments have been attempted in the past without success.

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            What mental healthcare specifically are you talking about? Everyone would ideally be getting mental healthcare. So what additional steps are you suggesting be taken with regards to trans people? Are you arguing against informed consent or for a different standard of care entirely? I cannot tell from your other posts what you actually support, only what you’re opposed to.