The sovereign citizen movement rejects the legitimacy of the government. Its fast-growing popularity has had authorities scrambling to get a handle on how far its tentacles have reached.

Unfortunately, Mr Oxby was persuaded by this theory during the seminar, which I infer from his evidence, was presented in a persuasive and charismatic manner."

He was ultimately fined $14,000.

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    With taxation, the individual limits themselves to poorer quality services that could be provided better by private industry. The gang requires you pay them extortion money and then they take that extortion money and fund their friends and cronies and you get poorer services as a result. Even regardless of that, your extortion that you pay also funds foreign wars. Maybe not quite so much in Australia, but especially here in the United States. Our extortion money goes to kill people that we have no reason to kill and no beef against.

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        Which is primarily the result of people being willing to pay way too much for those services. We have insurance here and since it comes out of our paychecks we don’t really think about it. The way to prevent $500 bandages or $1,000 ambulance rides is to refuse to pay it.

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      poorer quality services that could be provided better by private industry.

      That could is doing some heavy lifting there.

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        Fair, government funded services tend to lead to monopoly such as one single trash service, etc which allows the favored to charge higher prices than would be tolerated normally. Lots of small companies competing for business keeps prices low for as long as possible and inflation is the main source of increases.

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            Six of one-half a dozen of the other. I still only have one trash service, one power company, etc. etc. They look no different.

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                Okay, fine. If you tax the ultra-wealthy at 100% for example, then they have no incentive to work and therefore will no longer be ultra-wealthy and that will pay for what maybe 1% of what’s necessary to fund these services and now there are no more ultra-wealthy people so who are you going to tax? The middle class of course.

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                    Right, but the government is a very wasteful spender. As an example, the US government spends the market cap of Apple Incorporated every 100 days. If Apple did that, they would not exist in 100 days. But the government continues to exist. I completely understand that once you obtain a certain amount of wealth, you really don’t need any more. However, with that said, I think taxation is the wrong way to handle it and that using another service is the correct way to handle it.