• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    21 days ago

    So you agree that capitalism’s primary use is not to ensure the supply of everyone’s needs with the most effective usage of resources.

    But rather: it’s about competition on an international level. And the former kingpins (so-called “US” and Europe) try to stop their inevitable decline.

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      21 days ago

      No, it is not about competition on an international level. It’s an economic system for a state, not an economic strategy

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        21 days ago

        It’s an economic system for a state

        Umm, we’re in international economy. There’s no capitalist state that doesn’t do international trade.

        And the states are in competition with one another. That’s why tarifs exist.

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            20 days ago

            International economy means that there is a competition going on between the nations.

            If Chinese companies sell more EVs, Germany’s economy suffers.

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                  20 days ago

                  Lol come on man.

                  I said capitalism is the economic system of a state. You started going on about international trade, making it sound like “nations compete therefore capitalism is all trade”.

                  I tried to help you understand by proposing the question of whether a communist state can trade with a capitalist state (it can). So that you understand that capitalism is not defined by international trade.

                  I think you forgot what you were arguing about?

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                    20 days ago

                    Lol come on man.

                    Don’t try to gocha me with your leading questions, “man”!

                    said capitalism is the economic system of a state. You started going on about international trade, making it sound like “nations compete therefore capitalism is all trade”.

                    Your conclusion is false. It’s actually: Capitalism requires nations to compete.

                    I tried to help you understand by proposing the question of whether a communist state can trade with a capitalist state

                    If a “communist” state (which is an oxymoron, since communism is by definition stateless) trades with a capitalist state, it’s in a capitalist context. The states interact on a capitalist world market.

                    So that you understand that capitalism is not defined by international trade.

                    International trade is a consequence of capitalism in a world of nation states.