• esc27@lemmy.world
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    Asteroid mining. This may still be too far off and too expensive. But the first person to get this working successfully will be a trillionare.

    This plus fusion are the two things most needed to transition humanity to a space based civilization.

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      Or it’ll be a gold rush situation where that guy will break even, but the people selling him rocket fuel will make a modest fortune. It’s all dependent on how expensive the shipping method invented is.

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      And that is something to inspire to? Look at the world right now, with billions of people having almost no money at all.

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      Asteroid mining is incompatible with current capitalism. Say you harvest an asteroid with 100,000 of platinum in it. You in theory now have trollions of dollars in platinum for the $40 billion you spent harvesting the asteroid, only you have now quadrupled the amount of platinum in the economy, crayering the price and totally ruining your company. It’s obviously a net good for humanity as a scarce resource is now abundant, but it is bad for capitalism because the ones who finaced the work are the biggest loser.

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        No you’ve got it backward. The mining is a cover. You look for celestial bodies that require only a small delta-v to redirect to a collision event.

        It’s a proper hostage situation, once you’ve got the infrastructure to replicate it more cheaply than people can defend against it.

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        I did some googling and math. Global platinum market is 8 million oz a year. Current spot price is ~$900. That’s $7T per year. They would have a monopoly and be able to shut down all mines by undercutting the price selling at say $800/oz. If it cost $40 Billion to mine the asteroid, that means it would take 7 years to pay back the cost.

        7 year payback is short for businesses. Commercial Solar is installed despite having a 10 year payback.

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        I think if mining economy worked like that, Saudi Arabia would have gone bankrupt by cratering the price of oil.

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          Oil jas constant demand and the Saudis have so much of it that it costs them very little to drill for it and store it. And digging a new well doesn’t immediately flood the market with 4x the annual production of oil.

          I’m not arguing against asteroid mining. I am saying that it is fundamentally impossible under our current capitalist system. That’s why there has been zero advances in the concept in iver a decade.

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            They don’t have to sell all the platinum immediately. Just like DeBeers has mountains of diamonds they keep locked up in warehouses to keep the price controlled.