Honestly, between the MBP and a similarly priced Dell as a company laptop, i choose the MBP.
The battery is better, the screen is better, performance is better, etc
Dell doesn’t know how to make a laptop & windows sucks ass. Macos is so locked down by default that all the restrictions on a company laptop don’t change the user experience all that much.
In an ideal world, id love a debian thinkpad or framework. But we don’t live in an ideal world, so had to choose between the two worst possible options
I was able to buy my M1 MBP from my company for cheap and the laptop is amazing. Its like 4 years old now but it doesnt feel like its aged a day. Easy 6 hour battery life while doing heavy tasks and it performs like a beast. It’s faster than my desktop at many tasks such as compilation.
In an ideal world, id love a debian thinkpad or framework
Then make your world ideal. Pester your boss or the IT guys with articles showing how Linux is better than Windows at security or dev work. Show them how Linux isn’t prone to the same security concerns. Show them articles or examples about how you could do your work with a Linux install.
As much as I would love to go over to a purely Linux system there just isn’t the support. I would not relish the prospect of trying to administer 5,000 laptops, and 300 desktops without the benefit of active directory user groups. Even with all of the messing about that Microsoft has done with Entra, it is still a far better mass device management platform than anything available on Linux and Apple haven’t even tried.
Maybe this works for a small-medium business, but for large enterprises (i work for a massive tech company) it doesn’t work like that.
Corporate devices are bought through enterprise service agreements, which have to go through the lawyers as well as the procurement team. Although you could get a contract from Lenovo for the actual devices, a Linux distro would have no service agreement, so that would kill it right there (+ legal would probably flag the risk of malicious code being injected into the OS, i.e. xz). Ignoring thag, devices that are onboarded need to be able to fit into existing device management solutions (ABM/MDM, EDR, DLP, AD, etc etc).
And before any of that, there would be some survey that goes out to determine how many employees would realistically make the switch. For Linux, that number would likely be so low that the business teams would decide it isn’t worth a discussion because of low business impact & user desire (not to mention that now the IT teams also need to be skilled up to support it).
I couldn’t even get a FOSS browser extension approved to be installed on my device, much less spur a movement for adding a whole new set of devices to the corporate inventory.
(Editing to add, i did talk to the IT guy and he said he wished he could give me one because he wants one too lol)
I was told the same at multiple jobs and just asked kindly that they spend the money on a linux compatible laptop. I had arguments to back my statement up too. It worked out.
YMMV
Good luck (if you want to go down this path and haven’t become a farmer yet).
If I resort to using a Mac I want someone to put me out of my misery.
Honestly, between the MBP and a similarly priced Dell as a company laptop, i choose the MBP.
The battery is better, the screen is better, performance is better, etc
Dell doesn’t know how to make a laptop & windows sucks ass. Macos is so locked down by default that all the restrictions on a company laptop don’t change the user experience all that much.
In an ideal world, id love a debian thinkpad or framework. But we don’t live in an ideal world, so had to choose between the two worst possible options
I was able to buy my M1 MBP from my company for cheap and the laptop is amazing. Its like 4 years old now but it doesnt feel like its aged a day. Easy 6 hour battery life while doing heavy tasks and it performs like a beast. It’s faster than my desktop at many tasks such as compilation.
Then make your world ideal. Pester your boss or the IT guys with articles showing how Linux is better than Windows at security or dev work. Show them how Linux isn’t prone to the same security concerns. Show them articles or examples about how you could do your work with a Linux install.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
As much as I would love to go over to a purely Linux system there just isn’t the support. I would not relish the prospect of trying to administer 5,000 laptops, and 300 desktops without the benefit of active directory user groups. Even with all of the messing about that Microsoft has done with Entra, it is still a far better mass device management platform than anything available on Linux and Apple haven’t even tried.
Maybe this works for a small-medium business, but for large enterprises (i work for a massive tech company) it doesn’t work like that.
Corporate devices are bought through enterprise service agreements, which have to go through the lawyers as well as the procurement team. Although you could get a contract from Lenovo for the actual devices, a Linux distro would have no service agreement, so that would kill it right there (+ legal would probably flag the risk of malicious code being injected into the OS, i.e. xz). Ignoring thag, devices that are onboarded need to be able to fit into existing device management solutions (ABM/MDM, EDR, DLP, AD, etc etc).
And before any of that, there would be some survey that goes out to determine how many employees would realistically make the switch. For Linux, that number would likely be so low that the business teams would decide it isn’t worth a discussion because of low business impact & user desire (not to mention that now the IT teams also need to be skilled up to support it).
I couldn’t even get a FOSS browser extension approved to be installed on my device, much less spur a movement for adding a whole new set of devices to the corporate inventory.
(Editing to add, i did talk to the IT guy and he said he wished he could give me one because he wants one too lol)
redhat provides enterprise support for Linux.
my very large tech company heavily uses Linux (and I personally have both a Linux laptop AND desktop).
it’s not the easy path, but when it happens it is so nice
Rght? "I want something shiny to write my code on because it makes me look cool and costs a lot " is not ether sign of seniority.
I can only imagine that you’ve never touched a mac much less used one for development.
I had two options at work.
Mac or Windows 11.
I was told the same at multiple jobs and just asked kindly that they spend the money on a linux compatible laptop. I had arguments to back my statement up too. It worked out.
YMMV
Good luck (if you want to go down this path and haven’t become a farmer yet).
oh I asked. this is a big company with 6-8k employees.
the answer was always, “no”.
looking for my plot, though I might just become a fur trapper instead of a farmer.
That explains it, yeah. Companies of that size often aren’t open for change unless it is top down.
Good luck with the fur trapping. Not sure if there’ll be less bugs though ;)
Mac user here.