• chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 hours ago

    Hmmm. Sounds kinda… like a mix of no true Scotsman and hipster. What something started as doesn’t always get to define how it always is, or we could make the same applications to a number of other things and call them “not real x.”

    Some people argue any Pizza in America isn’t real pizza because it’s not made in the original style. You could even argue all Japanese sushi isn’t real sushi because the origin of sushi was a method for preserving fish by packing it with salted rice for fermentation. That’s not the standard for sushi today, but sushi today is still sushi.

    Likewise, perhaps you could argue contemporary goth vs original goth or classic goth or something, but it’s all still goth, since it grew out of goth and just adjusted. Don’t enforce your preference on people enjoying the aesthetic the way they like to.

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      16 hours ago

      That’s a fair argument, but you do have to balance it with words actually having meaning. Like if people started saying Barbie hot pink aesthetic is “goth” then the word just wouldn’t be useful to use.

      And were not talking about regional variation of sushi or pizza were talking about anytime a person wearing black being called goth, so it would be like any dish with rice in it being called sushi or anything with mozzarella and tomato in it a pizza.