Saying there is enough solar power for everyone in the daytime, the federal government will direct retailers to provide three hours of free power every day to consumers.
the power company can steal your power and charge you for the privilege
If you export power to the grid, you are paid for it
The whole reason to join a VPP, is so you get paid for exporting power during CRITICAL peak events
I know, because I have now been on 2 VPP’s
One with Sonnen, where they paid me $15 a month for being on standby to charge or discharge during peak events and Globird ZeroHero:
ZEROLIMITS (Optional add-on):
Take your earnings to the next level
Get $1/kWh on exports during wholesale critical events, plus other critical event credits
Nobody is signing up to a VPP to donate their power and get nothing for it
Also the government recently made it legal for power companies to charge you for your exports, which you need to be on a VPP for them to do
Where did you read this?
The charge for exports is for SOLAR during the MIDDLE of the DAY because there is TOO MUCH solar
Solar energy exports are reaching levels in some parts of the grid during the 10am – 3pm period that they are becoming difficult to manage and could potentially pose a threat to network stability. Export charges applied during this window will act as a signal to system owners to self-consume more of the energy they generate during this time.
What is happening now doesn’t matter, as it’s all going to radically change as the AEMO plan states that 60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that the power companies draw from this at will - and they’re not going to pay for it. Power companies are in the business of making money, and politicians are in their back pockets for those sweet lobbying dollars and post-politics executive jobs.
To make all this work they need everyone with smart meters, and solar and batteries. What they’re doing now is getting everyone to get them installed via incentives, so when everyone has them they can start stealing your power and charge you for it and there’s nothing you can do.
Solar export tariffs are designed to stop solar being exported to the grid when there is a lot of sunshine about. That means that solar panel owners should put in place things that soak up their solar generation.
there is currently too much cheap renewable power going to the grid during the day
the AEMO plan states that 60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that the power companies draw from this at will - and they’re not going to pay for it
no it doesn’t
The claim that “60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that power companies draw from this at will—and they’re not going to pay for it” is a significant oversimplification and, in some respects, a misrepresentation of AEMO’s plans and the current state of Australia’s energy market.
What AEMO actually says:
AEMO’s Integrated System Plan (ISP) does highlight the growing importance of distributed energy resources, including home batteries, as part of Australia’s future energy mix. The plan envisions a future where consumer energy resources (CER), such as rooftop solar and home batteries, play a major role in supporting the grid, especially as coal plants retire and renewable energy capacity expands. By 2050, AEMO expects a massive increase in both rooftop solar and battery storage, with home batteries potentially helping to avoid billions in grid investment costs—if they are “well coordinated”
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The key here is “well coordinated.” AEMO and the energy market are exploring ways to integrate home batteries into the grid through mechanisms like Virtual Power Plants (VPPs), where households can choose to participate and may receive incentives or payments for allowing their batteries to be used to support the grid during peak times. Participation is voluntary, and households are not forced to give up control of their batteries without compensation
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There is no current policy or plan that allows power companies to unilaterally “draw from” home batteries without the owner’s consent or compensation. Any use of home batteries for grid support would typically be part of a formal agreement, such as a VPP program, where participants are compensated for their contribution
VPPs mate lol. It says that at the end there. When everyone has a smart meter and the only plans available are VPP ones, what do you think the power companies will do with the legislation that allows them to draw all your power from your battery and charge you for it?
AEMO and the power companies will make sure of it. People without batteries will pay absurd amounts for power, and those with batteries will pay slightly less than absurd prices.
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally. Not to mention that having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
there are loads of people living off grid up in tara
i have a 6.6kw solar system and 10kw battery (and a smart meter 😧!) and im already 90% off the grid, in 20 years time we may have 40kw solar panels for the same cost as 6.6kw today and 100kw batteries
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally.
sorry are you talking about reality or is this an elaborate blade runner style dystopian fantasy novel you’re writing?
I don’t get it
If you export power to the grid, you are paid for it
The whole reason to join a VPP, is so you get paid for exporting power during CRITICAL peak events
I know, because I have now been on 2 VPP’s
One with Sonnen, where they paid me $15 a month for being on standby to charge or discharge during peak events and Globird ZeroHero:
https://www.globirdenergy.com.au/energy-saver/zerohero/
Nobody is signing up to a VPP to donate their power and get nothing for it
Where did you read this?
The charge for exports is for SOLAR during the MIDDLE of the DAY because there is TOO MUCH solar
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/debunking-sun-tax-mb2941/
Here is the current wholesale cost of power at 11:35am QLD time
https://www.aemo.com.au/Energy-systems/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Data-NEM/Data-Dashboard-NEM
Sorry I’m out at the shops and wrangling the kids at the moment, so will do a full reply later.
Solar feed in charges: https://repositpower.com/blog/blog/the-solar-tax-has-arrived-now-what
What is happening now doesn’t matter, as it’s all going to radically change as the AEMO plan states that 60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that the power companies draw from this at will - and they’re not going to pay for it. Power companies are in the business of making money, and politicians are in their back pockets for those sweet lobbying dollars and post-politics executive jobs.
To make all this work they need everyone with smart meters, and solar and batteries. What they’re doing now is getting everyone to get them installed via incentives, so when everyone has them they can start stealing your power and charge you for it and there’s nothing you can do.
yes as i said and from your own link
there is currently too much cheap renewable power going to the grid during the day
no it doesn’t
The claim that “60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that power companies draw from this at will—and they’re not going to pay for it” is a significant oversimplification and, in some respects, a misrepresentation of AEMO’s plans and the current state of Australia’s energy market.
What AEMO actually says:
VPPs mate lol. It says that at the end there. When everyone has a smart meter and the only plans available are VPP ones, what do you think the power companies will do with the legislation that allows them to draw all your power from your battery and charge you for it?
Who says there will be only VPP ones? And you’re saying all 10 million households will have a home battery?
AEMO and the power companies will make sure of it. People without batteries will pay absurd amounts for power, and those with batteries will pay slightly less than absurd prices.
why would people with solar and battery pay absurd prices instead of just disconnecting from the grid?
Because disconnecting from the grid won’t be an option, legally. Not to mention that having enough solar and batteries to go completely off grid would require most households to take out a second mortgage to pay for it.
there are loads of people living off grid up in tara
i have a 6.6kw solar system and 10kw battery (and a smart meter 😧!) and im already 90% off the grid, in 20 years time we may have 40kw solar panels for the same cost as 6.6kw today and 100kw batteries
sorry are you talking about reality or is this an elaborate blade runner style dystopian fantasy novel you’re writing?