Every day, every day we have these stories of American sociopathy permeating every institution of the USA.
USA is suffering a collective mental illness that sociopathy is a virtue, because sociopathy is considered strength, and in USA might makes right, and sociopathy is therefore also an expression of freedom.
I’m not even sure there’s a way back to normalcy for American society anymore, because this has been going on for at least half a century!
Foucault’s Discipline and Punish is a rather interesting read. It suggests that cruelty and suffering are the point of prisons for certain parts of society. For them, it is the prisoner who sinned and they must atone for what they did so they can get salvation, in this life or the next. Regardless of the evidence to the contrary that it doesn’t really work and that rehabilitation is much more cost effective.
It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Then there’s things like organized crime: By imprisoning gangsters we’re simply removing them from society so they can’t commit crimes against people who aren’t also in prison. But this doesn’t solve the problem of a gangster being able to commit crimes such as ordering a murderer from within prison (e.g. via their lawyer or a secret cell phone).
For such people, we have the death penalty (presumably).
Then there’s white collar crime and fraud. Do those people belong in prison or should they instead be forced to live in “affordable housing” with one too many people sharing the same home, work a minimum wage job, having 100% of their wages given to their victims, and forced to regularly work overtime? Oh sorry, that’s my “real justice for rich fraudsters” fantasy 😁
For health insurance executives, we should also make them wait on hold every day to get someone to push the button that unlocks the door to their room. Once a year, we’ll make them go through a lengthy bureaucratic process in order to prove that they need access to running water. It should take at least a week.
It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Perhaps for you. For this section of society I’m referring to, they would rather see this person put before their deity in order for ultimate judgement to be rendered.
In medieval England, executions were, as History says, conducted willy-nilly without any legal precedent. Starting with the reign of Henry VIII in the early 1500s, the death penalty became codified into an eventual, expansive 222 crimes. Some 72,000 people were executed in 16th century England alone for crimes such as treason, marrying a Jew, cutting down a tree, and (you ready?) not confessing to a crime.
There are ways to fix this. People are not willing to hear them or do them.
I’ve had a peaceful plan to fix government for a long time, and it would surely work. Instead I see total nonsense get attention and funds. The fixes that function are not spoken because they get crushed.
Don’t despair. These problems are just the transition into post-scarcity. The culture must evolve before we can reach the next stage.
Ok but this is like special Mississippi stuff. It’s like pointing to germany’s nazi party and saying all germans are nazis to take Mississippi as the country.
No it’s not unfortunately, of course it’s not all Americans that are sociopaths, that’s not the claim, but it is all of AMERICA as a country that is sociopathic with sociopathic laws, law enforcement and federal government. Not just Mississippi or a few states.
When more than half the population votes sociopathic and don’t oppose the fascist tendencies it has to be regarded a social illness for the country as a whole.
I’m so sick of hearing it’s not everybody or all states, because of course it isn’t, that’s impossible, Nazi Germany also had good people, and of course there are good people in USA too, the problem is they are a minority, and the country is in fact a fascist cesspool of evil, and the fascists are in power. Even som places you may not regard as sociopathic really are, because many Americans have become immune and think it’s normal to let people die of starvation and sickness because they can’t work, and if they steal even just for food, many places of USA has the 3 times and your out sociopathic mentality, even over a candy bar for fucks sake. The mentality is everywhere even if it isn’t everyone.
That shit should never even have been legal to begin with, and in fact it isn’t because there is such a thing as cruel and unusual punishment is illegal, but still it’s practiced every day without being stopped, and the legal system accepts it, because the legal system is interpreted with the same sociopathic mindset as the rest of the American society.
PS TLDR:
Despite not all Germans were Nazis under the Nazi regime, it was a Nazi country at the time, with Nazis in power.with everything that followed from that.
The same is the case in USA today, not all Americans are fascists or sociopaths, but the fascists and sociopaths are in power, and that is by the will of the American people!
I’m talking about present Germany, with their present nazi party. Not past Germany. Just to correct that misinterpretation. And I also meant specifically the example of the post. Mississippi’s prisons are worse by no small magnitude compared to other usa states
Mississippi’s prisons are worse by no small magnitude compared to other usa states
Still apparently legal under American federal law, last I checked Mississippi is part of USA. And federal law in USA doesn’t protect human rights very well, which is very contrary to EU.
So even if AfD becomes part of a coalition government in Germany, they have to observe human rights under EU regulation.
As I mentioned many aren’t even aware how bad it is in USA, and you seem to be one of them if you are American.
Id disagree with that last part. If you’ve read anything about prisons inside the US they’re all terrible. I mean torture (solitary confinement) is the go to punishment in every prison
Every day, every day we have these stories of American sociopathy permeating every institution of the USA.
USA is suffering a collective mental illness that sociopathy is a virtue, because sociopathy is considered strength, and in USA might makes right, and sociopathy is therefore also an expression of freedom.
I’m not even sure there’s a way back to normalcy for American society anymore, because this has been going on for at least half a century!
Foucault’s Discipline and Punish is a rather interesting read. It suggests that cruelty and suffering are the point of prisons for certain parts of society. For them, it is the prisoner who sinned and they must atone for what they did so they can get salvation, in this life or the next. Regardless of the evidence to the contrary that it doesn’t really work and that rehabilitation is much more cost effective.
It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Then there’s things like organized crime: By imprisoning gangsters we’re simply removing them from society so they can’t commit crimes against people who aren’t also in prison. But this doesn’t solve the problem of a gangster being able to commit crimes such as ordering a murderer from within prison (e.g. via their lawyer or a secret cell phone).
For such people, we have the death penalty (presumably).
Then there’s white collar crime and fraud. Do those people belong in prison or should they instead be forced to live in “affordable housing” with one too many people sharing the same home, work a minimum wage job, having 100% of their wages given to their victims, and forced to regularly work overtime? Oh sorry, that’s my “real justice for rich fraudsters” fantasy 😁
For health insurance executives, we should also make them wait on hold every day to get someone to push the button that unlocks the door to their room. Once a year, we’ll make them go through a lengthy bureaucratic process in order to prove that they need access to running water. It should take at least a week.
Perhaps for you. For this section of society I’m referring to, they would rather see this person put before their deity in order for ultimate judgement to be rendered.
https://www.grunge.com/305837/which-crimes-merit-the-death-penalty-in-the-united-states/
A lot of people would like to go back to these times.
Ugh. You’re right, of course. We’re surrounded by lizard-brained, uncivilized cave people who still believe in fairy tales.
Tell them that their religion is a fantasy without evidence, though, and now you’re somehow the unreasonable one.
Foucault and Chomskys debates are excellent, extremely relevant.
There are ways to fix this. People are not willing to hear them or do them.
I’ve had a peaceful plan to fix government for a long time, and it would surely work. Instead I see total nonsense get attention and funds. The fixes that function are not spoken because they get crushed.
Don’t despair. These problems are just the transition into post-scarcity. The culture must evolve before we can reach the next stage.
Ok but this is like special Mississippi stuff. It’s like pointing to germany’s nazi party and saying all germans are nazis to take Mississippi as the country.
No it’s not unfortunately, of course it’s not all Americans that are sociopaths, that’s not the claim, but it is all of AMERICA as a country that is sociopathic with sociopathic laws, law enforcement and federal government. Not just Mississippi or a few states.
When more than half the population votes sociopathic and don’t oppose the fascist tendencies it has to be regarded a social illness for the country as a whole.
I’m so sick of hearing it’s not everybody or all states, because of course it isn’t, that’s impossible, Nazi Germany also had good people, and of course there are good people in USA too, the problem is they are a minority, and the country is in fact a fascist cesspool of evil, and the fascists are in power. Even som places you may not regard as sociopathic really are, because many Americans have become immune and think it’s normal to let people die of starvation and sickness because they can’t work, and if they steal even just for food, many places of USA has the 3 times and your out sociopathic mentality, even over a candy bar for fucks sake. The mentality is everywhere even if it isn’t everyone.
That shit should never even have been legal to begin with, and in fact it isn’t because there is such a thing as cruel and unusual punishment is illegal, but still it’s practiced every day without being stopped, and the legal system accepts it, because the legal system is interpreted with the same sociopathic mindset as the rest of the American society.
PS TLDR:
Despite not all Germans were Nazis under the Nazi regime, it was a Nazi country at the time, with Nazis in power.with everything that followed from that.
The same is the case in USA today, not all Americans are fascists or sociopaths, but the fascists and sociopaths are in power, and that is by the will of the American people!
I’m talking about present Germany, with their present nazi party. Not past Germany. Just to correct that misinterpretation. And I also meant specifically the example of the post. Mississippi’s prisons are worse by no small magnitude compared to other usa states
Still apparently legal under American federal law, last I checked Mississippi is part of USA. And federal law in USA doesn’t protect human rights very well, which is very contrary to EU.
So even if AfD becomes part of a coalition government in Germany, they have to observe human rights under EU regulation.
As I mentioned many aren’t even aware how bad it is in USA, and you seem to be one of them if you are American.
Id disagree with that last part. If you’ve read anything about prisons inside the US they’re all terrible. I mean torture (solitary confinement) is the go to punishment in every prison
America is a sociopath making machine, bud.