It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Then there’s things like organized crime: By imprisoning gangsters we’re simply removing them from society so they can’t commit crimes against people who aren’t also in prison. But this doesn’t solve the problem of a gangster being able to commit crimes such as ordering a murderer from within prison (e.g. via their lawyer or a secret cell phone).
For such people, we have the death penalty (presumably).
Then there’s white collar crime and fraud. Do those people belong in prison or should they instead be forced to live in “affordable housing” with one too many people sharing the same home, work a minimum wage job, having 100% of their wages given to their victims, and forced to regularly work overtime? Oh sorry, that’s my “real justice for rich fraudsters” fantasy 😁
For health insurance executives, we should also make them wait on hold every day to get someone to push the button that unlocks the door to their room. Once a year, we’ll make them go through a lengthy bureaucratic process in order to prove that they need access to running water. It should take at least a week.
It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Perhaps for you. For this section of society I’m referring to, they would rather see this person put before their deity in order for ultimate judgement to be rendered.
In medieval England, executions were, as History says, conducted willy-nilly without any legal precedent. Starting with the reign of Henry VIII in the early 1500s, the death penalty became codified into an eventual, expansive 222 crimes. Some 72,000 people were executed in 16th century England alone for crimes such as treason, marrying a Jew, cutting down a tree, and (you ready?) not confessing to a crime.
It’s much, much more complicated than mere rehabilitation VS punishment/salvation. When sometime goes to prison for a minor drug offense—like this guy—what exactly are we “rehabilitating”? I seriously doubt he had a real addiction.
Then there’s things like organized crime: By imprisoning gangsters we’re simply removing them from society so they can’t commit crimes against people who aren’t also in prison. But this doesn’t solve the problem of a gangster being able to commit crimes such as ordering a murderer from within prison (e.g. via their lawyer or a secret cell phone).
For such people, we have the death penalty (presumably).
Then there’s white collar crime and fraud. Do those people belong in prison or should they instead be forced to live in “affordable housing” with one too many people sharing the same home, work a minimum wage job, having 100% of their wages given to their victims, and forced to regularly work overtime? Oh sorry, that’s my “real justice for rich fraudsters” fantasy 😁
For health insurance executives, we should also make them wait on hold every day to get someone to push the button that unlocks the door to their room. Once a year, we’ll make them go through a lengthy bureaucratic process in order to prove that they need access to running water. It should take at least a week.
Perhaps for you. For this section of society I’m referring to, they would rather see this person put before their deity in order for ultimate judgement to be rendered.
https://www.grunge.com/305837/which-crimes-merit-the-death-penalty-in-the-united-states/
A lot of people would like to go back to these times.
Ugh. You’re right, of course. We’re surrounded by lizard-brained, uncivilized cave people who still believe in fairy tales.
Tell them that their religion is a fantasy without evidence, though, and now you’re somehow the unreasonable one.