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      You might want to adjust your thoughts on the second. Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls. You can find one such study here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11213322/

      Question: “If you had to guess, do you think Black people or white people are more likely to own the following dogs?” Source: Pooled Lucid Surveys, June-July 2020, August 2021.

      Not everyone dislikes based on racial association, but to claim there is none only illustrates that your argument is both invalid and uninformed.

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        Studies have shown that pit bulls are associated with black people, and that people who have unfavorable views of black people, especially as being violent, also have a correlation to negative views of pit bulls

        Not OP, but - this has nothing to do with racism, WTF are you talking about?

        “Studies have shown”… My god, studies have shown that a breed created for violence and bloodthirst has a higher probability of being violent and bloodthirsty than those that weren’t, that’s literally all the context there was!

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              My comments and the links were all about the stereotypes part,not really the pitbulls. This particular comment reply chain, at least where I got involved, was just about how stereotypes alone isn’t a basis for truth. A counter argument was made that such a judgement doesn’t count for dog breeds, and the study shows that it indeed can count.

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                My comments and the links were all about the stereotypes part,not really the pitbulls

                Exactly my point. Nobody is talking about any stereotypes.

                A counter argument was made that such a judgement doesn’t count for dog breeds

                If the discussion was about how “X people tend to get Pitbulls”, I’d agree that talking about stereotypes makes sense.

                But the discussion was about Pitbulls being bloodthirsty and dangerous. It’s not a stereotype, it’s a biological fact.

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        That may be true in the US. Here in the UK there is no such correlation, and yet pitbulls here still cause more injuries and deaths than all other breeds combined. Odd, that.

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          My argument wasn’t that it cancels out any studies showing pitbulls being aggressive; as I stated before, I wasn’t interested in participating in that argument. My argument was that stereotypes aren’t a valid argument that something is true. They then stated that dogs aren’t political, u like other stereotypes to which I demonstrated that yes, dogs breeds can be associated with political biases. I

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            Do you think that stereotyping applies here, then? You seem minded to agree that pitbulls are more dangerous in fact than other breeds, given you won’t participate one way or the other. So if pitbulls are in fact more dangerous then if would be reasonable, rather than irrational stereotyping, to be more wary of them, and to label them as more dangerous.