[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:30] Oh no, look… It’s half to Hitler
[yellow, annoyed] Chill out buddy, don’t be such an alarmist
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:45] Oh no, look… It’s quarter to Hitler
[yellow, rude] Yeah I get it, I tweeted about it, leave me be
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:55] Oh no, look… It’s five to Hitler
[yellow, scared] Oh shit oh fuck, we really need to do something NOW
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:59] Oh shit, look… It’s one to Hitler
[yellow, terrified] It’s too late now, wish we could have seen it coming earlier
If you tolerate intolerant people, you will lose your right to tolerate them. Full stop. You cannot tolerate and debate everyone. Some people dont play by the same rules or have the same goals as you, and the human brain is flawed enough that ‘the marketplace of ideas’ cant exist to serve all ideas. Some are objectively bad. They are objectively, morally, wrong.
And if you let them in, they destroy. They serve no other purpose. It’s fine in fiction. Most people understand the empire in star wars are objectively the bad guys. Most people understand humans are the bad guys in Warhammer40k. Most people understand humanity were the bad guys in starship troopers. Most people understand the Klingons were the bad guys in the star trek universe despite some members of the species being reasonably morally Grey.
But in reality when we have fascists, we cant let them play out their fantasy.
You are all going at each other determined to win. Nothing you have said here changes that. You want to win. Not to change anyones mind, not educate, not to try to understand other people. Only to win. They do the same thing. That is the culture wars. That is you and them and everyone else who is part of it. I mean, youre not even talking about them as they they were human beings. Dont you see that? Dont you see that you are using their same language? And using their same justifications? You could be MAGA talking about immigrants, the language would only be slightly different.
They killed people like you too. And are actively doing it again. You get nothing by being polite. Not one single right or privilege you hold was granted by being polite.
And to answer your question, no, no its not the same.
Immutable characteristics are different from choices, you know that right? You didn’t choose to be gay, immigrants didn’t choose to be not born here (not that they actually hate immigrants, they hate brown people).
You choose to be a fascist. It’s not even something you’re born into, you choose it.