• Instigate@aussie.zone
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    People who ask that question are really telling on themselves; they’re saying that without religion they would have no qualms stealing, murdering, and raping. They’re very dangerous people.

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      Oh absolutely. That’s the scariest part about this whole line of argument.

      Christians do not believe people are inherently good. We are all sinners. And even scarier, you can be excused for anything if you confess. Three Bloody Marys and one Hello Dolly and you’re golden. Still get into heaven.

      The whole religion is just a thinly veiled framework designed to allow bad people to do bad things - and even make good people do bad things.

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        35 For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. 36 I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’

        37 “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? 39 When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’

        40 “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters,[a] you were doing it to me!’

        There are many parts of Christianity, but these are among the clearest words of its founder. Wherein this admonition do you find a framework to do bad?

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          Want me to list all the parts of the Bible where it commands Christians to kill gays…?

          But that’s not even the point. You know just as well as I do - Christians of each century have always cherry picked the Bible. There’s a currently fashionable interpretation of the same book that keeps changing over time. Pick a different country and a different century, suddenly people are burning witches.

          The exact contents of the Bible don’t even matter that much, it’s the fact that Christians are free to interpret it to their liking.

          The Bible isn’t the framework I was talking about. The framework is the Bible plus the man with the funny hat can tell you whatever the fuck he thinks it means and what makes you blindly serve his current agenda.

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      They are not all dangerous. Most are just ignorant. Sometimes willfully so. They have been conditioned to never even think about questioning the rules, so they never had that moment where they thought “wait none of this makes any sense”. We should be more compassionate towards these folks. Most of them are not bad people they are just incapable of questioning their place in the universe.

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        I’m not saying all religious people are dangerous, just those who ask how someone can have a moral compass without religion. In order to ask that question genuinely they have to believe that they, without their religious rules, would have no qualms with harming others for their own gain.