Where would OpenAI get 78bln to pay AMD? It’s very unlikely that money would come from their existing revenue streams, so it most likely would come from either external investors or a loan. Loan obviously comes with debt so let’s say it came from an external investors? But where did they get that kind of money? Investors rarely have billions just sitting in the bank so they had to liquidize somehow. Maybe they sold some of their non-liquid assets, but most likely they took loans against their assets (because loaning is cheaper than selling) which means we’re back to there being debt somewhere.
the simple answer is that the people buying AMD stock are the ones paying for those chips
That is the simple answer because people would buy the stock, stock price would go up, OpenAI 10% would end up being worth 78bln, OpenAI dumps the stock and that money goes back to whoever financed the 78bln. Debt would get paid off and no additional debt would exist (except for people who bought the stock without having the money to buy the stock). But that’s a simplistic way of viewing this whole ordeal.
In my eyes this deal is a speculative investment leveraging debt.
I don’t see an issue here. In my eyes there is debt created to accumulate 78bln and the speculative part is using AMD stock to cover the debt. If the pump and dump fails would there not be debt?
Debt would be SoftBank giving OpenAI $78 B in cash and then in a year or two asking for payments of cash back.
This investment/stock circular thing is like if you were building a house and lived next to a brick yard, and convinced the brick yard owner to give you bricks to build your house. Your house would be the demonstration of how lovely the bricks are, and in return you’ll give them 10% of the title of your property. If you sell that property in 2009 or 2024, the value will change, but that’s a risk and gamble you both take. And they can sell small parts of that 10% whenever they want, if they want.
None of that is debt. Debt would be a loan from the bank that requires payments over time.
Where would OpenAI get 78bln to pay AMD? It’s very unlikely that money would come from their existing revenue streams, so it most likely would come from either external investors or a loan. Loan obviously comes with debt so let’s say it came from an external investors? But where did they get that kind of money? Investors rarely have billions just sitting in the bank so they had to liquidize somehow. Maybe they sold some of their non-liquid assets, but most likely they took loans against their assets (because loaning is cheaper than selling) which means we’re back to there being debt somewhere.
That is the simple answer because people would buy the stock, stock price would go up, OpenAI 10% would end up being worth 78bln, OpenAI dumps the stock and that money goes back to whoever financed the 78bln. Debt would get paid off and no additional debt would exist (except for people who bought the stock without having the money to buy the stock). But that’s a simplistic way of viewing this whole ordeal.
I don’t see an issue here. In my eyes there is debt created to accumulate 78bln and the speculative part is using AMD stock to cover the debt. If the pump and dump fails would there not be debt?
The issue here is this isn’t debt!
Debt would be SoftBank giving OpenAI $78 B in cash and then in a year or two asking for payments of cash back.
This investment/stock circular thing is like if you were building a house and lived next to a brick yard, and convinced the brick yard owner to give you bricks to build your house. Your house would be the demonstration of how lovely the bricks are, and in return you’ll give them 10% of the title of your property. If you sell that property in 2009 or 2024, the value will change, but that’s a risk and gamble you both take. And they can sell small parts of that 10% whenever they want, if they want.
None of that is debt. Debt would be a loan from the bank that requires payments over time.
But where did OpenAI get the money to buy those chips (+10% of the company)?