Man, nobody can put “a target” on you for something you say on a public forum that people get mad about.
You guys want freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is also getting shit on online for something you say. You have a right to speak, not a right to be liked.
Must feel great then for this to be the top level comment and everyone seeing through your bullshit :) <3. Makes it easier for people to know to avoid you, while you pretend like you’re not actively rounding up people who aren’t the same color as you <3.
Lemmy has everything from libs to anarchists to tankies. If that’s an echo chamber I think I’ll survive without fascist voices in the mix. The North Korea apologists are bad enough.
That’s fair, I can definitely understand that position and agree with you on the NK apologists.
From my point of view, I think it’s more productive to interact with people I disagree with, in the (possibly naive) pursuit of changing their minds. If people are kicked out for their views, I’d imagine many of them will just double down and act like a martyr.
To be clear, I’m not saying we shouldn’t call these people out and downvote them – that’s why that function exists right? But maybe once in a while, something that we argue will resonate with them.
Of course there are limits to that approach, and this all hinges on the other person arguing in good faith. Based on the OP’s post history, I’ll admit that I may be barking up the wrong tree in this case.
I honestly think there’s essentially zero chance of any argument resonating with someone who identifies as MAGA at this point.
I’d say there’s more danger to letting them into spaces to push hateful shit than there is benefit in the moonshot chance that one of them might hear an argument that resonates.
See, I’m torn. On one hand, I feel like this ‘us vs. them’ mentality contributes to the sort of tribalism that ultimately results in movements like MAGA popping up. If these people can only operate in MAGA-friendly spaces, they’ll rarely speak to anyone who disagrees with them, and will have no reason to reflect on their worldview.
Then I read the news. If current events aren’t enough to convince them that they’re misguided, I’m not sure that anything will.
I’m not sure I know what the solution is, but it’s been an interesting discussion.
That’s an optimistic perspective and I feel like we need more optimism these days. And maybe sometimes people do change their minds on things with social media discussions, though I think it’s already a difficult medium to work with.
For maga shit though, those people are basically cultists, and from what I understand it’s pretty much impossible to get people out of a cult without a personal connection helping them.
Don’t worry man, I’m fine with you here. Sometimes I want to have a glimpse in to the world of republican politics to see if they make any sense whatsoever.
I’m guessing it’s actually because you’re Republican
A right winger misrepresentating a situation to appear more sympathetic? Say it ain’t so.
Also really unlikely that a linux nerd would call you a “fag”
Eh, there’s plenty of community for projects like XLibre where that seems more likely, what with the “anti-woke” ideas.
They wouldn’t be angry at a right-winger though
MAGA… “Free thinkers.” Lol.
More like “free of thinking”.
Free from the restraints of logic!
Doublespeak
FTFY: “When you say you don’t like linux and Mexicans and that black ppl should go back to africa”
More likely the reason, indeed.
So cool, I love that marker you put on me. Makes it easier to round up people you don’t like ;)
It says a lot that you were trying to keep it hidden. Why? Not proud of it?
Awwww, is the widdle MAGAt upset they can’t blend into the crowd and lie about why they received mean messages?
Man, nobody can put “a target” on you for something you say on a public forum that people get mad about.
You guys want freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is also getting shit on online for something you say. You have a right to speak, not a right to be liked.
I really wish you people were as oppressed as you think you are
Must feel great then for this to be the top level comment and everyone seeing through your bullshit :) <3. Makes it easier for people to know to avoid you, while you pretend like you’re not actively rounding up people who aren’t the same color as you <3.
Nobodys rounding you up bub, we just want you to go away
Man, I don’t like MAGA either. I think they represent pretty much everything that’s wrong with society today…
But for a community that talks so often about disliking echo chambers, it really seems like most Lemmy users want an echo chamber.
Lemmy has everything from libs to anarchists to tankies. If that’s an echo chamber I think I’ll survive without fascist voices in the mix. The North Korea apologists are bad enough.
That’s fair, I can definitely understand that position and agree with you on the NK apologists.
From my point of view, I think it’s more productive to interact with people I disagree with, in the (possibly naive) pursuit of changing their minds. If people are kicked out for their views, I’d imagine many of them will just double down and act like a martyr.
To be clear, I’m not saying we shouldn’t call these people out and downvote them – that’s why that function exists right? But maybe once in a while, something that we argue will resonate with them.
Of course there are limits to that approach, and this all hinges on the other person arguing in good faith. Based on the OP’s post history, I’ll admit that I may be barking up the wrong tree in this case.
I honestly think there’s essentially zero chance of any argument resonating with someone who identifies as MAGA at this point.
I’d say there’s more danger to letting them into spaces to push hateful shit than there is benefit in the moonshot chance that one of them might hear an argument that resonates.
See, I’m torn. On one hand, I feel like this ‘us vs. them’ mentality contributes to the sort of tribalism that ultimately results in movements like MAGA popping up. If these people can only operate in MAGA-friendly spaces, they’ll rarely speak to anyone who disagrees with them, and will have no reason to reflect on their worldview.
Then I read the news. If current events aren’t enough to convince them that they’re misguided, I’m not sure that anything will.
I’m not sure I know what the solution is, but it’s been an interesting discussion.
That’s an optimistic perspective and I feel like we need more optimism these days. And maybe sometimes people do change their minds on things with social media discussions, though I think it’s already a difficult medium to work with.
For maga shit though, those people are basically cultists, and from what I understand it’s pretty much impossible to get people out of a cult without a personal connection helping them.
Lol says the ice supporting Nazi
Aww sweaty, you’re making my night :^)
Lol nice malapropism. Or is “sweaty” just a Republican term of endearment ever since the whole Trump / Epstein debacle?
I’m not getting sweaty with you, magat
Don’t worry man, I’m fine with you here. Sometimes I want to have a glimpse in to the world of republican politics to see if they make any sense whatsoever.
That’s what coworkers are for ):
Beep.