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    Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

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        So that’s part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.

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            Aye, but when all the lunatics already have guns and you remove the guns from the responsible citizens, is that putting people in more or less danger?

            I think it’s too late at this point to solve this one via gun control.

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          Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.

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            Gun suicides or suicides in general?

            Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a “List of mass shootings” article on Wikipedia. The US has a “ListS of mass shootings” category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland’s list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.

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              As I said gun suicides.

              And guns are a big part of the problem. Science has proven that over and over.

              Yes America has other problems. For example not accepting that it is not in a healthy enough mental state to own guns.

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                So suicides in general weren’t dramatically affected, only the method differed?

                Problem in the US is that the genie is out of the bottle now. Start removing guns by force and the people who are already predisposed to shooting up events, are going to be keeping them AND they’l have affirment for their conspiracy theories so they’re even more likely to shoot shit up.

                I agree Americans should never have been allowed to buy guns like this, it’s just not a fixable problem right now. Other things need to be fixed first.