We live in a sad time when a stunningly ignorant imbecile who believes he can can see children with “mitochondrial challenges” is in charge of public health, and this news post about vaccines can just as accurately be posted in a political sub.
Because of Trump and his worshiping morons 180,000 American’s needlessly died during the worst of COVID, but that’s not enough. Trump and his ilk want more people to die from diseases that were previously nearly gone.
Polio, Whooping Cough, Measles, and even Small Pox are now welcome in Trump’s America.
Maybe these states should leave the USA and become part of Canada. People in right-leaning states hate California, but the US would collapse without it.
They need to finally form the country of Cascadia
That only works for Washington and Oregon, if California is included a better name is the Pacific States of America or The Grand Republic of California.
Cascadia is named after the cascade mountains that cross all 3 states.
It is named after the mountains of course but it is a well-established concept of a bio region not just national borders. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(bioregion)
Sure if you’re going to include California you’d want to go with a feature that more than a quarter of the state has.
Why? Seems perfectly reasonable to me. What’s the “correct” cut off for inclusion in a mountain range for a state?
Seems like an arbitrary thing to say that California can’t be in Cascadia because only 190 of a 760 mile state have the mountain range in it.
More importantly, Cascadia is a fine name, even if it wasn’t attached to anything. A name that is pretty, distinct, and rolls off the tongue are all good features to have.
Wasn’t “Jefferson” another proposed name? Or am I mixing it up with something else?
No those are the whackjobs up in the Cascadian mountains themselves, basically they want to sheer off Eastern Oregon, Eastern Washington, and Northern California and form what would be the single poorest state. Lots of fascists mixed in.
I’d say “they can have it” but that’s actually important farmland and invaluable wild habitat.
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California alone has almost twice the GDP of the entire country of Canada, and nearly as many people. They wouldn’t just become part of it, they’d make up most of it.
Besides, even as left-leaning states I would be concerned about that many Americans joining my country. Canada would lose its identity.
Fair enough - maybe it could become its own country then.
Maps change. It’s the only real constant throughout history. May be sooner. May be later. But eventually, even the most resolute borders change as do nation-states. You don’t have to go any further back that Yugoslavia, Serbia, etc… for example. It would be arrogance to presume that it won’t happen here at some point.
Not of we join them and become a separate nation. We can form our own west coast identity. We are already different from most of Canada and have very little representation in our own politics. The East Coast gets all the love and all the funding, the west is left to fend for itself mostly, and we do alright.
West coast gets 6 senators.
The 4 least populous states on the east coast are Maine, Rhode Island, Delaware, and New Hampshire. They get 8 senators with a fraction of the population.
These states have about 5 million people. California alone has nearly 40 million people
That’s because California is so fucking massive. We could break it into 4+ states and it would probably benefit the Dems in Congress
It would not creat more seats though, maybe a couple. The East is over represented and the west is under represented. Period. We keep getting shafted by terrible policy that doesn’t have a place in our environments. If we weren’t doing things ourselves, shit wouldn’t get done.
Each new state would get 2 senators added to the senate. You are right about the house of Representatives though
What we need is to repeal the Reapportionment Act of 1929 that limits the House of Representatives at 435 members.
That’s what’s really fucking states like California.
I think we’ll need a 1500-word essay from each state explaining why we should let them join. And no ChatGPT cheating. I also think Canada might be a little worried about California potentially getting the idea of “who’s joining who” a bit backwards. We’ll need them to at least sit a multiple choice test on that.
I wouldn’t worry too much about California wanting to be in charge. That’s not really our jam. We just want to be part of a constructive collective at this point. We’ve spent several decades in an abusive relationship at this point, with all the red states shitting on us whatever we do.
An essay explaining why each of the three states should going would be fun though. All three would have a lot to offer Canada.
But Canada doesn’t want that offer.
I live in one of those states, and increasingly seems it’s either that or we just all move to BC
I love BC, but they have winter. I don’t miss winter.
I wouldn’t blame Oregonian and Washingtonians for fleeing north, though. As much as I love California, BC is my escape plan if things deteriorate further.
This is one thing that keeps me in the Bay Area - great weather year-round. Summers aren’t too hot, at least in the peninsula (although it did get pretty hot over the past week!), and winters aren’t too cold.
To be fair if California were to join that would nearly double the Canadian population and that’s not even counting the other west coast states.
Assuming equal representation rights those would be some huge changes
Yes, I don’t think it’s a realistic possibility. Canada has no desire to absorb that many Americans. I could see it being in these states’ interest to form their own country though, and that country having good relations with Canada.
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(ETA: not because I want to see America collapse, but because I like Canada and the West Coast would be a good ideological fit to most of Canada)
Or, hear me out. The other states could start to respect democracy.
If only it were that easy. :(
No thanks. Canada has too many anti-vax nutters.
I don’t think I’ve met any anti vaxxers in California, but I live in a well-educated area, so maybe it’s different in more rural areas. California has some of the strictest vaccination laws for kids in school, with no exemptions allowed.
If they want to, that’s their prerogative.
Nope, just because they’re to the left of much of the USA they’re still right-wingier than of most of Canada.
I doubt they would fit in well with Canadian society.
Vancouver and Seattle are practically sisters.