You were so wrapped up in the current situation that your very limited imagination couldn’t comprehend changing it, and you’re myopically focused on the world as it is instead of what it could be. I can understand someone who isn’t very creative having a hard time thinking outside of what’s put in front of them, so I’m sorry I was trying to introduce a hypothetical that was so over your head that you clearly got frustrated with the situation.
You were clearly thinking from a “how could we work this ass things are” situation because of your mental limitations, and I was casually thinking of hypotheticals and being goal first oriented, thinking of the optional situation and willing to work backwards.
So yes, of course my cavalier suggestion wouldn’t work in the economic system we have now, and since you’re not really able to look outside of that, you, like a frustrated child, see it as an impossibility and lashed out.
I think it would certainly be a noble goal and something to work towards, humanity having it’s basic needs met with a small stipend on top of that, and what a pity there’s people who would fight tooth and nail against such an idealized situation.
I suppose you’re very much wrapped up in the puritanical thought of life without work is sinful and should be avoided, especially with your repeated accusations of laziness directed at me, so such a future would be a nightmare for you. I only assume you never plan on retirement and view retired people with contempt for their lack of toil. It’s why I assume you wish to stab homeless people, for their sloth. You say you’re for nationalized education, housing, good and healthcare but honestly I don’t think your heart is in it if one of your big arguments against ubi is the same one being used against all those things, the horrible idea that some people might not work when they could.
Ah well, have fun working towards humanity having to do perpetual labor forever, I’m sure that’s a great idea. Wouldn’t want too many idle hands and all.
You were so wrapped up in the current situation that your very limited imagination couldn’t comprehend changing it, and you’re myopically focused on the world as it is instead of what it could be.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? We are already imagining a world where all basic needs are being subsidized by the government… Which is not the curt status quo the last time I checked.
introduce a hypothetical that was so over your head that you clearly got frustrated with the situation.
We were already talking about the likelihood of a hypothetical when you further proposed ubi on top of it.
thinking from a “how could we work this ass things are” situation because of your mental limitations,
Again… We were already talking about a hypothetical That is different from the current status quo. Just because I don’t think UBI is compatible with that hypothetical doesn’t mean anything but your inability to understand economics.
wouldn’t work in the economic system we have now, and since you’re not really able to look outside of that, you, like a frustrated child, see it as an impossibility and lashed out
Again…can you not retain what you read? We were already talking about an economic system that is not our current system. UBI is only compatible with our current system, because it’s a ploy from billionaires to stop paying for things like social security and Medicare.
small stipend on top of that,
For what reason…? You haven’t validated your reasoning other than falsely claiming that it drives the economy. Which I already explained why it would not happen in this hypothetical economic scenario.
puritanical thought of life without work is sinful and should be avoided, especially with your repeated accusations of laziness directed at me
I honestly don’t care if you wanted to work or not in this scenario, you aren’t going to starve, you will have the right to higher education, and will have a roof over your head. What I don’t want is for the system to further incentive people like you to do nothing but goon all day and take from the system without ever giving anything back to society.
If that is possible the system will not be productive enough to provide for everyone. Socialism just doesn’t mean you can be a lazy ass and get a free check, quite the opposite. It means we’re all responsible for providing enough to insure the people who lack the ability to contribute don’t go without.
I only assume you never plan on retirement and view retired people with contempt for their lack of toil. It’s why I assume you wish to stab homeless people, for their sloth.
Lol, I plan on retiring early and am on track to do so… We don’t currently live in a socialized economy, so I really do not care if you aren’t being productive, it’s no skin off my back. Though I would advocate that you still deserve food, healthcare, and a roof over your head.
but honestly I don’t think your heart is in it if one of your big arguments against ubi is the same one being used against all those things, the horrible idea that some people might not work when they could.
Again, you really need to take a course at the community college or something for reading. In our current economy, I wouldn’t mind UBI so long as it wasn’t a veiled attempt to lower social security or Medicare funding. However, in the hypothetical scenario new were talking about, UBI would be unnecessary and would likely increase the funding requirements while simultaneously lowering productivity…which is why no socialist government has done any sort of UBI in the past.
Ah well, have fun working towards humanity having to do perpetual labor forever, I’m sure that’s a great idea. Wouldn’t want too many idle hands and all.
This is the reason I call you out for being a lazy fuck. Because that seems to be the only thing you really care about. You seem to be in hysterics over the thought that you might have to be a productive member of a socialized society, even though it would mean having universal housing, education, food security, and healthcare. Again providing for all society is not free, I’m sorry to burst your little imagination land bubble. Please learn to read, it might help some of these ideas seep through your thick lazy skull.
Ah, I see where the problem lies.
You were so wrapped up in the current situation that your very limited imagination couldn’t comprehend changing it, and you’re myopically focused on the world as it is instead of what it could be. I can understand someone who isn’t very creative having a hard time thinking outside of what’s put in front of them, so I’m sorry I was trying to introduce a hypothetical that was so over your head that you clearly got frustrated with the situation.
You were clearly thinking from a “how could we work this ass things are” situation because of your mental limitations, and I was casually thinking of hypotheticals and being goal first oriented, thinking of the optional situation and willing to work backwards.
So yes, of course my cavalier suggestion wouldn’t work in the economic system we have now, and since you’re not really able to look outside of that, you, like a frustrated child, see it as an impossibility and lashed out.
I think it would certainly be a noble goal and something to work towards, humanity having it’s basic needs met with a small stipend on top of that, and what a pity there’s people who would fight tooth and nail against such an idealized situation.
I suppose you’re very much wrapped up in the puritanical thought of life without work is sinful and should be avoided, especially with your repeated accusations of laziness directed at me, so such a future would be a nightmare for you. I only assume you never plan on retirement and view retired people with contempt for their lack of toil. It’s why I assume you wish to stab homeless people, for their sloth. You say you’re for nationalized education, housing, good and healthcare but honestly I don’t think your heart is in it if one of your big arguments against ubi is the same one being used against all those things, the horrible idea that some people might not work when they could.
Ah well, have fun working towards humanity having to do perpetual labor forever, I’m sure that’s a great idea. Wouldn’t want too many idle hands and all.
Do you have reading comprehension issues? We are already imagining a world where all basic needs are being subsidized by the government… Which is not the curt status quo the last time I checked.
We were already talking about the likelihood of a hypothetical when you further proposed ubi on top of it.
Again… We were already talking about a hypothetical That is different from the current status quo. Just because I don’t think UBI is compatible with that hypothetical doesn’t mean anything but your inability to understand economics.
Again…can you not retain what you read? We were already talking about an economic system that is not our current system. UBI is only compatible with our current system, because it’s a ploy from billionaires to stop paying for things like social security and Medicare.
For what reason…? You haven’t validated your reasoning other than falsely claiming that it drives the economy. Which I already explained why it would not happen in this hypothetical economic scenario.
I honestly don’t care if you wanted to work or not in this scenario, you aren’t going to starve, you will have the right to higher education, and will have a roof over your head. What I don’t want is for the system to further incentive people like you to do nothing but goon all day and take from the system without ever giving anything back to society.
If that is possible the system will not be productive enough to provide for everyone. Socialism just doesn’t mean you can be a lazy ass and get a free check, quite the opposite. It means we’re all responsible for providing enough to insure the people who lack the ability to contribute don’t go without.
Lol, I plan on retiring early and am on track to do so… We don’t currently live in a socialized economy, so I really do not care if you aren’t being productive, it’s no skin off my back. Though I would advocate that you still deserve food, healthcare, and a roof over your head.
Again, you really need to take a course at the community college or something for reading. In our current economy, I wouldn’t mind UBI so long as it wasn’t a veiled attempt to lower social security or Medicare funding. However, in the hypothetical scenario new were talking about, UBI would be unnecessary and would likely increase the funding requirements while simultaneously lowering productivity…which is why no socialist government has done any sort of UBI in the past.
This is the reason I call you out for being a lazy fuck. Because that seems to be the only thing you really care about. You seem to be in hysterics over the thought that you might have to be a productive member of a socialized society, even though it would mean having universal housing, education, food security, and healthcare. Again providing for all society is not free, I’m sorry to burst your little imagination land bubble. Please learn to read, it might help some of these ideas seep through your thick lazy skull.