@interolivary Logitech build quality was never a problem. The problem with Logitech, and most of the gaming brands, is their software which is utterly shit.
That Logitech F710 have never received a firmware update or even a driver update.
I’ve had some Logitech mice and keyboards is always the same story. They trend to work better without their software than with the “Logitech G suite” installed.
Same applies to Corsair, NZXT, Razer, Asus (Armory Crate) and many more.
I mean, the build quality isn’t a problem for terrestrial use where your life doesn’t depend on it. A 1% failure rate (I don’t know what it actually is, just pulling a number out of my ass) is not bad in those cases, but I’d be a bit nervous about it in a sub.
The fact of the matter is, gaming peripherals are probably close to the very best we have in human/machine interfaces. They’ve been studied to oblivion and back, for over 40 years.
The Navy also has redundancies and procedures in place for when those controllers fail. The controller doesn’t determine whether the crew lives or dies.
@interolivary Again their products are reliable. I’m still using some Logitech X-540 on my desktop PC and they still sound incredible.
Now when you move to devices that require software like mice and keyboards, there’s not gaming brand that does that good or even “acceptable”.
Even the Xbox controller had an issue in Steam were it used to fulfill your hard drive with screenshots. Microsoft had to release a driver update.
Again gaming devices have lots of software issues.
Oh I get it, I’m not saying they’re unreliable for normal gaming use (something like a 1% failure rate would be great for consumer stuff), but that I wouldn’t want to bet my life on one.
@interolivary Logitech build quality was never a problem. The problem with Logitech, and most of the gaming brands, is their software which is utterly shit.
That Logitech F710 have never received a firmware update or even a driver update.
I’ve had some Logitech mice and keyboards is always the same story. They trend to work better without their software than with the “Logitech G suite” installed.
Same applies to Corsair, NZXT, Razer, Asus (Armory Crate) and many more.
I mean, the build quality isn’t a problem for terrestrial use where your life doesn’t depend on it. A 1% failure rate (I don’t know what it actually is, just pulling a number out of my ass) is not bad in those cases, but I’d be a bit nervous about it in a sub.
So, you’d also be nervous knowing all U.S. nuclear subs also use an XBox controller?
https://www.geekwire.com/2017/u-s-navy-swapping-38000-periscope-joysticks-30-xbox-controllers-high-tech-submarines/
https://www.cnet.com/science/us-navy-launches-submarine-maneuvered-by-xbox-controller/
The fact of the matter is, gaming peripherals are probably close to the very best we have in human/machine interfaces. They’ve been studied to oblivion and back, for over 40 years.
The Navy also has redundancies and procedures in place for when those controllers fail. The controller doesn’t determine whether the crew lives or dies.
IIRC the controller is used for the periscope.
@interolivary Again their products are reliable. I’m still using some Logitech X-540 on my desktop PC and they still sound incredible.
Now when you move to devices that require software like mice and keyboards, there’s not gaming brand that does that good or even “acceptable”.
Even the Xbox controller had an issue in Steam were it used to fulfill your hard drive with screenshots. Microsoft had to release a driver update.
Again gaming devices have lots of software issues.
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Oh I get it, I’m not saying they’re unreliable for normal gaming use (something like a 1% failure rate would be great for consumer stuff), but that I wouldn’t want to bet my life on one.