• deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    Alternate take: All the laws and traffic calming measures in the world do no good if the city has enough motorists and pedestrians who habitually flout them.

    • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Assuming there are some law-abiding pedestrians as well as measure-flouting ones, we would expect to see some reduction in pedestrian deaths if all else remained equal. If we don’t see that, it suggests that something else is actively changing to offset the expected benefit.

      • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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        1 month ago

        You’re starting with the unproved assumption that the new laws actually improve safety for some part of the population.

        Law abiding citizens don’t benefit from piling on extra laws.

        The law breakers never followed them anyway.

        • zabadoh@ani.social
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          1 month ago

          How about taking away blame on either motorists and pedestrians, and putting it all down to risk:

          The more cars and the more pedestrians that you put together in an urban area, the more pedestrian car accidents are just bound to happen.

          Reduce either of those numbers, and the number of pedestrian car accidents goes down.