[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing] I’m the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing] Read theory you losers, you’re all WRONG

[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing] Nuh-uh, I’m the only leftist here, you’re SHITLIBS

[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

[a confused nazi asks] Why… why are they still arguing?

https://thebad.website/comic/infighting

  • Sal@lemmy.world
    72·
    2 days ago

    I am aware of that. I’m just like… I see a lot of “leftists” that think “successful socialist projects” have to replicate the USSR 100% with everything good and bad about it mixed in. If your definition of “building a better world” is killing or enslaving people for disagreeing with you, you are not a leftist, you’re a nazbol.

    And like, the USSR clearly does not exist anymore, and for most of its existence it made a joke out of socialist principles.

    • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
      71·
      2 days ago

      We’ve also seen years of what Russia in its current state and Putin are capable of. None of it is good. Hell, when I was more active in activist circles I was in very close proximity to a Russian-driven disinformation campaign in 2016 that used and exploited leftist organizations for its own benefit. It wasn’t some “hey, we’re friends” situation; it was the Kremlin using and disposing of people to destabilize in the same way the US and western powers have for decades themselves. Hitching your wagon to other political powers is a shit idea. There is a reason I don’t trust any politician.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
        22·
        2 days ago

        I was in very close proximity to a Russian-driven disinformation campaign in 2016 that used and exploited leftist organizations for its own benefit.

        How did you uncover this information?

        • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
          21·
          2 days ago

          Articles started popping up and an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved. A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin, was flowing money to these orgs under the guise of a common goal and alignment. Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates. It was US-esque tactics on US soil.

          I didn’t uncover anything and was merely volunteering with one of the groups when I could, but it was one of those “oh fuck” moments when I saw articles involving the group I was working with.

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            2 days ago

            Articles started popping up

            What do you mean “articles”? Articles where? Based on what?

            an activist group near me, as well as a couple others across the country, were also involved

            Involved in what? How did you determine this?

            A Russian very obviously associated with the Kremlin

            What do mean “very obviously associated with the Kremlin”? How did you determine this?

            Their ultimate goal was to sow chaos during election time and to take votes away from other candidates.

            Again, how did you determine this?

            it was one of those “oh fuck” moments

            What was? What actually was found?

            • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
              21·
              2 days ago

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Ionov

              Alexander Ionov was charged by a US Dept. of Justice indictment unsealed on July 29, 2022. He is accused of working on behalf of the Russian government and in conjunction with the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) and orchestrating a years-long foreign malign influence campaign that used various U.S. political groups to sow discord, spread pro-Russian propaganda, and interfere in elections within the United States.[10] According to the indictment, Ionov is accused of providing support to political campaigns in Florida, advocating for California’s secession from the United States, and financing a protest tour in solidarity with a petition denouncing the alleged “genocide” of African people within the country.[11]

              The organizations him and his company worked with were also pulled into that investigation and, in some cases, charged themselves. I was no longer working with them by the time the charges came, so it was scary to suddenly see articles years later being published about this.