My only point is I think there’s actually better stuff to focus on than whether people voted or not. I think it’s probably on the whole better to vote for the democrats than not vote. But I think there are good faith arguments against it and what really matters is more active ways of fighting fascism.
So, I agree with you that we need to do more, especially now, but that also includes voting too. Voting is bare minimum, if people can’t vote, I can’t see them doing much else.
If they can do other more impactful things without voting then I’m all for it, but voting itself does not take away from doing more.
Like for example, New Yorkers voting for Mamdani in this upcoming election is great, especially because it shows the nation that as a whole we can swing the total opposite direction.
Yeah, I basically agree with your first paragraph, but the point I was trying to make is that I do see people doing much else. I do know people who reject voting but spend a lot of time and energy doing organising and activism. Whether or not that applies to the other poster on this thread, I feel it’s better not to overly shame people for not having voted. Life sucks and people rationalise the dumb stuff they do in all sorts of crazy ways. I’d prefer to talk about something more positive.
Mamdani seems cool. It’s nice to see someone win on a straight affordability campaign without openly throwing marginalised people under the bus. Of course, it’s NY. But it shows it’s something we could unite around.
I’m not that person, check the usernames.
My only point is I think there’s actually better stuff to focus on than whether people voted or not. I think it’s probably on the whole better to vote for the democrats than not vote. But I think there are good faith arguments against it and what really matters is more active ways of fighting fascism.
Oops that’s my bad, I’m sorry.
So, I agree with you that we need to do more, especially now, but that also includes voting too. Voting is bare minimum, if people can’t vote, I can’t see them doing much else.
If they can do other more impactful things without voting then I’m all for it, but voting itself does not take away from doing more.
Like for example, New Yorkers voting for Mamdani in this upcoming election is great, especially because it shows the nation that as a whole we can swing the total opposite direction.
No worries, it happens.
Yeah, I basically agree with your first paragraph, but the point I was trying to make is that I do see people doing much else. I do know people who reject voting but spend a lot of time and energy doing organising and activism. Whether or not that applies to the other poster on this thread, I feel it’s better not to overly shame people for not having voted. Life sucks and people rationalise the dumb stuff they do in all sorts of crazy ways. I’d prefer to talk about something more positive.
Mamdani seems cool. It’s nice to see someone win on a straight affordability campaign without openly throwing marginalised people under the bus. Of course, it’s NY. But it shows it’s something we could unite around.